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re: Jenna Ellis is now defending the satan statue in Iowa
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:14 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:14 am to burger bearcat
I struggle to understand how people can't realize that the end result of this is simply more governmental restrictions on speech.
The real power brokers behind the useful idiots LOVE the fact that people feel like they can use the government to stop speech that they disagree with, and to them left and right are bullshite that doesn't matter. Simply need people on board with the idea that of you don't like it, big daddy government can remove it or punish you for it.
The useful idiots we "elect" aren't anywhere near thoughtful enough to understand this and are simply pimping for more votes or acting emotionally.
People have got to understand that the first amendment is the final rock we're gonna have to keep any semblence of what this country was based on alive, so it must be upheld AT ALL COSTS.
THE SPEECH YOU MOST HATE IS THE SPEECH YOU MUST FIGHT HARDEST TO PROTECT. If we don't hold fast to this idea, we will all very soon be unable to voice dissent to a tyrannical government.
It's scary how quickly it's moving that way now
The real power brokers behind the useful idiots LOVE the fact that people feel like they can use the government to stop speech that they disagree with, and to them left and right are bullshite that doesn't matter. Simply need people on board with the idea that of you don't like it, big daddy government can remove it or punish you for it.
The useful idiots we "elect" aren't anywhere near thoughtful enough to understand this and are simply pimping for more votes or acting emotionally.
People have got to understand that the first amendment is the final rock we're gonna have to keep any semblence of what this country was based on alive, so it must be upheld AT ALL COSTS.
THE SPEECH YOU MOST HATE IS THE SPEECH YOU MUST FIGHT HARDEST TO PROTECT. If we don't hold fast to this idea, we will all very soon be unable to voice dissent to a tyrannical government.
It's scary how quickly it's moving that way now
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Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:17 am to msutiger
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There were better ways to get the statue removed
Removing statues is okay as long as they're not the ones I like
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:29 am to Old Money
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Removing statues is okay as long as they're not the ones I like
Yea, actually this is correct.
Some statues are good, and some are bad. Civil War memorial statues in a grave site to honor fallen Americans is something good we should uphold... Satanic Deification and Pagan Idols we should destroy.
Your whatboutism doesn't apply. We do not always need to be held to this ridiculous libertarian framework... that is always used as a cudgel to be wielded against us and never the other way. We do not have to tolerate Satanic Statues in the state Capitol building to prove some point. If its a bad thing, lets get rid of it... if its a good thing, lets uphold. We need to stop with the mental gymnastics, and just start doing good things.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 10:32 am to adamau
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THE SPEECH YOU MOST HATE IS THE SPEECH YOU MUST FIGHT HARDEST TO PROTECT
I just don't see this as a free speech thing. If someone wants to have a Satanic Church somewhere, and do their silly little rituals... fine. But we do not need to tolerate it in a State Capitol.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:23 am to burger bearcat
Women ought not preach to men. Woman pastor is not a thing.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:24 am to burger bearcat
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I just don't see this as a free speech thing. If someone wants to have a Satanic Church somewhere, and do their silly little rituals... fine. But we do not need to tolerate it in a State Capitol.
Then no religious iconography at state capitols, whatsoever.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:25 am to Tmo Sabe
this is just more evil being allowed
Posted on 12/18/23 at 11:25 am to adamau
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I struggle to understand how people can't realize that the end result of this is simply more governmental restrictions on speech.
Banning stuff is the original slippery slope.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Then no religious iconography at state capitols, whatsoever.
Nah... this is a Christian country, founded by Christians... and we are simply going to glorify God and promote Christianity in the public sphere, and there is no moral equivalence with Satanists, they will not get the same treatment with their anti-Christianity non-religion (in their own words)
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:30 pm to burger bearcat
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this is a Christian country, founded by Christians
and a (reported, at least) secular government.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and a (reported, at least) secular government.
I don't know how you can say that. The individual states were literally setup for religous purposes. This country was founded with the express intent to worship.
Satanists would not have faired well in the early settlements.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Be on a higher plane. That was the message Jesus gave
Source? Wasn't aware Jesus was buddhist.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:37 pm to burger bearcat
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Satanists would not have faired well in the early settlements.
Thomas Jefferson did OK for himself.
You may want to go read up on him. He was more blasphemous than TST. He wrote his own humanist version of the Bible
Jesus was not divine and the supernatural was eliminated.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sfp defending Satan and pedophiles just another day for you
Posted on 12/18/23 at 12:47 pm to Ribbed
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Be on a higher plane. That was the message Jesus gave
Source? Wasn't aware Jesus was buddhist.
It sounds like a lot of "Christians" dont seem to understand that they are not of this world.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Thomas Jefferson did OK for himself.
TJ was not an satanis, he was not even an atheist. He was not as devout in his religous practices as some other founders, but was certainly aware of Christianity in our founding.
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It sounds like a lot of "Christians" dont seem to understand that they are not of this world.
Sounds like somebody is good at touting out of context Bible phrases without support.
But feel free to source Jesus' "higher plane" statement.
This post was edited on 12/18/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 12/18/23 at 1:39 pm to Pettifogger
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Being beholden to classical liberalism has gotten us here. I have no qualms about now saying "how can Christians and traditionalists work toward a better way for themselves and their families"? The consistent deification of liberalism from a "Christian perspective" is bizarre coming from French and it's even more odd coming from someone like Ellis.
Where we are and where we are headed as a country was a foregone conclusion from the beginning of the Enlightenment. It’s been our Tower of Babel.
The same people who helped construct the Tower are now horrified at what it’s become?
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