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re: Did Bond Yields crash today?

Posted on 12/12/23 at 10:13 am to
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 10:13 am to
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That probably has to do with the inventory available


It doesn't have anything to do with supply. The curve has shifted down since September's seasonal upward shift. Pin it today and toggle the date back. Forward curves are falling and swap spreads are turning negative. It's the bond market signaling a change in growth and inflation expectations.

Treasury Yield Curve
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38886 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 12:47 pm to
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That probably has to do with the inventory available


It doesn't have anything to do with supply. The curve has shifted down since September's seasonal upward shift. Pin it today and toggle the date back. Forward curves are falling and swap spreads are turning negative


Might have been timing on when I looked what was available. Aka after 5pm?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85399 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:30 pm to
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It doesn't have anything to do with supply. The curve has shifted down since September's seasonal upward shift. Pin it today and toggle the date back. Forward curves are falling and swap spreads are turning negative. It's the bond market signaling a change in growth and inflation expectations

I realize the trend, but a 20bps move on 20y treasuries in one day is probably related to what Fidelity or the platform had available. It’s not because rates moved 20bps yesterday. Thats my point.
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