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re: LSU Gymnastics Recruiting Thread (2024 and 2025 Recruiting Classes)
Posted on 3/24/24 at 4:32 pm to LSUgymfan420
Posted on 3/24/24 at 4:32 pm to LSUgymfan420
So, I was rewatching yesterday’s meet and decided to check what score we would get if we had stuck landings on all of our counting routines on beam, vault, and bars. Solely because every routine that one Norman team counted on those events either had a stuck dismount or a very small hop (Ava’s vault, Smith’s bars and Bower’s beam, especifically). So yeah, there's that.
I added tenths to each final score, depending on what deduction I feel was probably taken for the uncontrolled landing (small step/hop up to 0.1; large step/hop up to 0.2).
Note that all of this is subjective, and I did not take into consideration the 1-second hold rule because, you know, nobody seems to be doing so anyways. Also, some landings had a hop/step due to underrotation (e.g., Sav’s vault), which should be a separate deduction, but I only added the landing parcel of the score (theoretically, you can underrotate and still stick it - finesse, am I right?).
Ok, here we geaux.
Small step/hop up to 0.1
Large step/hop up to 0.2
Vault
KJ 9.875 (n/a)
Finnegan 9.85 + 0.1 (small step)
Schoenherr 9.85 + 0.05 (very minor hop in place)
Johnson 9.925 (n/a)
Bryant 9.975 (n/a)
Actual score: 49.475
Dream score: 49.625
Bars
Jonhson 9.825 + 0.1 (small hop)
Cowan 9.95 (n/a)
McClain 9.9 + 0.1 (small step)
Schoenherr 9.85 + 0.05 (minor hop?)
Haleigh Bryant 9.925 -> 10; she had 9.9s and 9.95s for that routine, so I guess some judges took 0.1 for the step (which feels right imo) and others considered it ‘very minor’ and took only a 0.05.
Actual score: 49.450
Dream score: 49.775
Beam
Ballard 9.8 (I don’t know about this one, it was like 2 or 3 steps, so kind of an impossible score here, but let’s consider a 9.875, shall we?)
Schoenherr 9.85 + 0.05 (very minor hop back)
McClain 10
Bryant 9.950 (n/a)
Finnegan 9.875 (n/a)
Actual score: 49.475
Dream score: 49.600
Total actual score: 198.075
Total dream score: 198.675
Feel free to disagree with the deductions I saw. I know a 49.775 on bars is kind of a reach, and yes, some of the routines are a bit unlikely to stick (Ballard on beam, Sav/Finnegan on vault), but I feel like the rest is doable.
We’d still be a tad behind Oklahoma, so maybe we’d need to be perfect AND get some help from them. I’m not sure their floor scores will translate to the big stage; they competed at LNC, after all. They were undeniably lights out yesterday, but could they be that perfect once again? (probably yes, but one can dream for everything to work out in our favour that one night
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I added tenths to each final score, depending on what deduction I feel was probably taken for the uncontrolled landing (small step/hop up to 0.1; large step/hop up to 0.2).
Note that all of this is subjective, and I did not take into consideration the 1-second hold rule because, you know, nobody seems to be doing so anyways. Also, some landings had a hop/step due to underrotation (e.g., Sav’s vault), which should be a separate deduction, but I only added the landing parcel of the score (theoretically, you can underrotate and still stick it - finesse, am I right?).
Ok, here we geaux.
Small step/hop up to 0.1
Large step/hop up to 0.2
Vault
KJ 9.875 (n/a)
Finnegan 9.85 + 0.1 (small step)
Schoenherr 9.85 + 0.05 (very minor hop in place)
Johnson 9.925 (n/a)
Bryant 9.975 (n/a)
Actual score: 49.475
Dream score: 49.625
Bars
Jonhson 9.825 + 0.1 (small hop)
Cowan 9.95 (n/a)
McClain 9.9 + 0.1 (small step)
Schoenherr 9.85 + 0.05 (minor hop?)
Haleigh Bryant 9.925 -> 10; she had 9.9s and 9.95s for that routine, so I guess some judges took 0.1 for the step (which feels right imo) and others considered it ‘very minor’ and took only a 0.05.
Actual score: 49.450
Dream score: 49.775
Beam
Ballard 9.8 (I don’t know about this one, it was like 2 or 3 steps, so kind of an impossible score here, but let’s consider a 9.875, shall we?)
Schoenherr 9.85 + 0.05 (very minor hop back)
McClain 10
Bryant 9.950 (n/a)
Finnegan 9.875 (n/a)
Actual score: 49.475
Dream score: 49.600
Total actual score: 198.075
Total dream score: 198.675
Feel free to disagree with the deductions I saw. I know a 49.775 on bars is kind of a reach, and yes, some of the routines are a bit unlikely to stick (Ballard on beam, Sav/Finnegan on vault), but I feel like the rest is doable.
We’d still be a tad behind Oklahoma, so maybe we’d need to be perfect AND get some help from them. I’m not sure their floor scores will translate to the big stage; they competed at LNC, after all. They were undeniably lights out yesterday, but could they be that perfect once again? (probably yes, but one can dream for everything to work out in our favour that one night
)This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 6:21 pm
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 5:34 pm to joaofff
This is a good analysis - I was curious about this.
A few other thoughts - I was sitting literally 20 feet away from the vault landing surface right behind the judges. It was a great view. When they gave KJ that 9.875 - I thought, well they better not reward stuck fulls in later rotations as scores rise. And, to my surprise they didn’t. I think the other three teams are probably annoyed by the vault scoring because they stuck a number of vault, but these judges also took into account the distance and height.
For example, Kentucky had their two stuck hand spring front like. They have honed in on the landing but get no distance and have no height (or not the height of Bryant’s). The highest these got were 9.925- which was correct, especially comparatively. As it turns out, it wasn’t LSU being over scored all year - but some of the other teams. That being said, Kiya and Haleigh saved that rotation with their best of the year, so I need at least one other of them to find a landing as e move forward.
Bars- I don’t know what to do there. Sam peszek mentioned she wondered if the athletes were feeling the bounce from podium because there weren’t as many sticks as you’d expect. Now, I am not going to give us that pass because we haven’t found them all year. Joe is the time to drill it - if not now, then when ??. Also kudos to Cowan - what a time to have your best performance. It’s better if we can have Alexis lead off so Kiya can go further down, but I think having Kiya lead off in her absence was the right move.
Beam - honestly, Sierra had one of her better routines until the landing and kudos for Savannah for stepping in. Her 3/4 switch leap is terrifying, but no less terrifying than Alexis standing front tuck, so I wonder if you keep her in. Konnor was perfection - obviously, and then I think the nerves got to Kiya, but am proud of her staying on at least. Haleigh was Haleigh, but dear lord - what is going on with Aleah and that series this year - she has hit it maybe three times of 10-12? I suppose they won’t do anything about it now, but these are things - she left a tenth on the floor at least.
Floor - best case floor lineup did what we all knew it could. Some slight missteps by Aleah and Amari, but still great performances - so glad for KJ finally getting some true recognition.
It will be interesting to see how the rest of it shapes up!
A few other thoughts - I was sitting literally 20 feet away from the vault landing surface right behind the judges. It was a great view. When they gave KJ that 9.875 - I thought, well they better not reward stuck fulls in later rotations as scores rise. And, to my surprise they didn’t. I think the other three teams are probably annoyed by the vault scoring because they stuck a number of vault, but these judges also took into account the distance and height.
For example, Kentucky had their two stuck hand spring front like. They have honed in on the landing but get no distance and have no height (or not the height of Bryant’s). The highest these got were 9.925- which was correct, especially comparatively. As it turns out, it wasn’t LSU being over scored all year - but some of the other teams. That being said, Kiya and Haleigh saved that rotation with their best of the year, so I need at least one other of them to find a landing as e move forward.
Bars- I don’t know what to do there. Sam peszek mentioned she wondered if the athletes were feeling the bounce from podium because there weren’t as many sticks as you’d expect. Now, I am not going to give us that pass because we haven’t found them all year. Joe is the time to drill it - if not now, then when ??. Also kudos to Cowan - what a time to have your best performance. It’s better if we can have Alexis lead off so Kiya can go further down, but I think having Kiya lead off in her absence was the right move.
Beam - honestly, Sierra had one of her better routines until the landing and kudos for Savannah for stepping in. Her 3/4 switch leap is terrifying, but no less terrifying than Alexis standing front tuck, so I wonder if you keep her in. Konnor was perfection - obviously, and then I think the nerves got to Kiya, but am proud of her staying on at least. Haleigh was Haleigh, but dear lord - what is going on with Aleah and that series this year - she has hit it maybe three times of 10-12? I suppose they won’t do anything about it now, but these are things - she left a tenth on the floor at least.
Floor - best case floor lineup did what we all knew it could. Some slight missteps by Aleah and Amari, but still great performances - so glad for KJ finally getting some true recognition.
It will be interesting to see how the rest of it shapes up!
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