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re: Have We Reached Peak Electric Vehicle Stupidity?

Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:56 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90874 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:56 pm to
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The mining and refining of ore to produce one Tesla battery produces more emissions than a Honda Accord will emit over 100,000 miles.


Not to mention the expensive and rare metals to make those batteries. If everyone bought EVs, we would run out of those metals wayyyy before we would ever run out of oil to produce gasoline
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
3811 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:01 pm to
Interior looks like a Chris Craft boat.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45850 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:16 pm to
40 years from now, on Bring a Trailer, it'll sell for $880,000 to some collector.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4970 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:23 pm to
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can't wait to see this diagram


This group crunched the numbers and it cost about $17 per gallon for one of those POS.

$17 a gallon




Oh yeah, ever seen a lithium mining operation?
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9130 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:26 pm to
That’s fricking awesome. But I’m a car enthusiast who misses good looking cars
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12636 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:29 pm to
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This group crunched the numbers and it cost about $17 per gallon for one of those POS.

You should read the source material for that article. If you did, you’d be embarrassed that you posted that.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28840 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:34 pm to
Looks like it was designed by a Minecraft Autist.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4322 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:39 pm to
This one is electric and also only about $350.00.

Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29224 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:42 pm to
For $100k no way. But let’s be honest there’s plenty of overpriced and/or stupid looking internal combustion engine vehicles out there as well
Posted by Guetteur
Member since Sep 2023
149 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:47 pm to
Sorry if I hurt your feelings. There is a reason that these abominations are offered in only 2 states. I suspect that it is because both are overwhelmingly populated by the Dim robots who buy into this insanity because they "feel" like they are helping to save the planet. So I hope that your hurt feelings don't linger too long and you can resume counting the dwindling number of Rs in that toxic state.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34054 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:48 pm to
Precisely. The great thing about our market is the market can decide jf it should be here or not
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18809 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:48 pm to
If a commercial airs in Baton Rouge featuring a mixed race transgender driving an EV, with a drag queen drinking a Bud Light in the passenger seat, sporting bumper stickers for BLM and climate change, the OT servers will literally melt down.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19310 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:50 pm to
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The great thing about our market is the market can decide jf it should be here or not

Not when the levers of government are thrown in favor of one and mandates start.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48861 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Surely you realize generating electicity at a power plant is more efficient than burning fuel in an ICE vehicle?


You have something to back that up with?
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48861 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:59 pm to
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Got anything to back that up?


Got anything to refute it?
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6107 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:08 pm to
LINK

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energy produced in a power plant is much more efficient than in the small engine of a vehicle, no matter how much technology has improved the efficiency of these vehicles. The average coal plant about 35% efficient, with the very best ultra super critical coal plants at about 42% efficient. Even the best combined cycle natural gas plants are about 60%, which still implies that 40% of the energy obtained from the fuel used is lost in the process of producing electricity. An internal combustion engine in a car is at best 25%, efficient, with most energy simply lost as heat. In a large power plant, the possibilities of reusing that heat are obviously much greater than in the small engine of a vehicle.



The 25% depends on where you get the information. Ev friendly sites are going to quote 25%. ICE friendly sites will quote up to 50% efficiency.

quote:

Modern gasoline engines have a maximum thermal efficiency of more than 50%,[1] but most road legal cars are only about 20% to 40% when used to power a car.[2][3][4][5] Many engines would be capable of running at higher thermal efficiency but at the cost of higher wear and emissions



Truth usually lies somewhere in between.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6107 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:08 pm to
Double post
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 9:09 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12636 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:11 pm to
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Got anything to refute it?

Common sense
Google
A dozen or so IE reports
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34054 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:15 pm to
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Not when the levers of government are thrown in favor of one and mandates start.




Federally you're talking a tax incentive. You have control over what your state does and we are not California


quote:

You have something to back that up with?


A high school physics course can tell you that stop and go in an ICE is pretty damn inefficient. Unless you were for the whole car shutting of at the stop light
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 9:17 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11426 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:23 pm to
Would make a lot more sense if they just put in a Cummins 4cyl though.
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