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re: Brian Kelley is 16-6…….
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:05 pm to RightWingTiger
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:05 pm to RightWingTiger
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So BK should’ve told JD or Nuss to hit the portal because he couldn’t imagine the absolute horror of having made a goofy video with a QB recruit that transferred?
I didn't say that. I said that bk did a dumbass dance with the kid and then he lost that same kid to ole miss. Those are the facts.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:23 pm to LSUSkip
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It actually is. You're comparing him to Saban. That's the cream of the crop. There are about 300 head football coaches across divisions. 150 of them do not have that record. 50 of then do not have that record. 10 of then may have that record.
So only winning 50% of his games vs ranked opponents while at notre dame is elite? Winning .266% of his games against top 10 teams at notre dame is elite?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:23 pm to TigerCard
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Remember that Miles inherited a loaded team from Saban, and the team wasn't in terrible shape when Orgeron took over from Miles. Can't rightly compare Kelly's situation to theirs.
I agree with this but Miles also inherted the Louisiana recruiting advantage. Could pretty much pull at least 7 or 8 of the top recruits from the state. BK doesnt even have that currently With NIL. LSU better get that recruiting budget up because right now We are not there with the bama's and UGa's in the SEC when it comes to talent.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:28 pm to jsmoke222000
Jsmoke=Lunchbox
ETA: changed my mind.
ETA: changed my mind.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:29 pm to Le Tenia
No clue who that is. But ok.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:34 pm to jsmoke222000
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Lincoln Riley was always an option but his teams always had horrible defenses. Honestly, I think he could have overcome that here with an elite DC
After reading all this crap, still can’t wrap my head around this one… I also considered it, but I grew up and have a firm grasp of reality. Riley will NEVER hire a competent DC. He doesn’t care. He would never have done so at LSU and you’d now be complaining about being boatraced or blown out the SEC defenses.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:45 pm to TxWampus
U mean like Tennessee & Georgia last year? Or were u referring to ole miss this year?
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:04 pm to jsmoke222000
quote:how’s your dad? Still wearing shrimp boots and chasing whores while he burned down the program?
I didn't say that. I said that bk did a dumbass dance with the kid and then he lost that same kid to ole miss. Those are the facts.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:35 pm to SidewalkTiger
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SidewalkTiger
Why even bother arguing with that guy? When someone makes a clearly idiotic argument, don’t even bother with it. Let them continue to spout their stupidity.
Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:30 pm to jsmoke222000
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My reason is that he has a track record of losing big games.
This has always been a terrible argument.
People always want to point to the CFP and BCSNCG game losses and say muh Kelly can't win the big game.
Those teams went a combined 42-1, no one beat them except Johnny Football, the eventual Heisman winner. 2018 Clemson beat Alabama worse than they did Notre Dame.
But BK is somehow a bad coach simply because he didn't beat some teams that no one else beat either.
I would argue that Notre Dame is frequently overrated and got in some postseason matchups vs elite teams that they had no business playing.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 5:35 am to GeauxHouston
Was a great coach until the debacle in the NC vs Alabama. He never recovered and simply became a "good" coach after that. Capable of winning 10 games but not one to lead to continuous NC appearances.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 5:42 am to SidewalkTiger
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This has always been a terrible argument.
People always want to point to the CFP and BCSNCG game losses and say muh Kelly can't win the big game.
Those teams went a combined 42-1, no one beat them except Johnny Football, the eventual Heisman winner. 2018 Clemson beat Alabama worse than they did Notre Dame.
But BK is somehow a bad coach simply because he didn't beat some teams that no one else beat either.
When I said BK has a track record of losing big games, I was referring to his record vs ranked teams. Personally I consider those to be games vs top 10 teams. In those games which BK coached ND, BK was 4-11. I completely agree with you that the teams they played in the CFP and BCSNCG game losses were on a whole different level & would have likely beaten any team so lets remove those 2 losses. 4-9 vs top 10 competition (excluding the CFP and BCSNCG game losses).
Is that record acceptable? Does it warrant $95,000,000?
BK is now 2-3 vs top 10 teams here @ LSU. Only time will tell if he does better or worse.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 6:09 am to jsmoke222000
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Is that record acceptable? Does it warrant $95,000,000?
Who should we have hired that is worth that money? If you can’t pay BK who should have 300 career wins next season then who realistically who should we have hired???
You talk all this mad shite and spit these “facts” and truth but won’t go on the record for who you wanted hired. Quit being a.count and flash the stats of who you would rather have coaching that is worth that money.
Btw, I don’t give af what BL has done before he got here. You know why? Because it doesn’t fking matter anymore. Just like it doesn’t matter that he lost 4 games last year or two already this year. I want him to win the next game and ones after that.
You hate BK bc he drives a fkn Tesla??? Bc a kid died in scissor lift at ND while was on the field coaching?? Bc he gets angry during a game?? All things that you’ve stated. FACTS! I think you suck and you squat to piss. Also, FACTS.
I ask that you stay in one location so I can comeback and visit. It’s easier to know when you disappear again.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 6:35 am to Le Tenia
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Who should we have hired that is worth that money?
LSU could have cherry picked whoever they wanted for 95 million. Outside of Saban, Smart & Dabo, I'd be willing to bet that most other coaches would have come here for that kind of money. Personally I think it's crazy to pay anyone that kind of money, but that's the world we live in now & that's why ticket prices are going up next year.
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BK who should have 300 career wins next season
He has 300 wins now if you include the vacated ND wins.
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Btw, I don’t give af what BL has done before he got here. You know why? Because it doesn’t fking matter anymore.
So why are you talking about 300 wins? 284 of those wins came before he got here. You said anything he did prior to getting here doesn't matter.
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You hate BK bc he drives a fkn Tesla???
I don't hate him for it, but driving a tesla (in my opinion) is a douche move.
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Bc a kid died in scissor lift at ND while was on the field coaching??
It wasn't simply a coincidence that the kid got up there on his own & had an accident. Brian Kelly made the call to send the kid up on that lift in tropical storm force winds. People make mistakes & I'm sure this one haunts BK.
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Bc he gets angry during a game??
After beating Florida State in 2021, kelly said the following on national TV: "I'm in favor of execution. Maybe our entire team needs to be executed after tonight." He has a long track record of throwing players under the bus, this one just so happened to be on youtube. LINK
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I ask that you stay in one location so I can comeback and visit. It’s easier to know when you disappear again.
I ain't going anywhere.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 6:53 am to jsmoke222000
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Personally I think it's crazy to pay anyone that kind of money, but that's the world we live in now & that's why ticket prices are going up next year.
Totally agree on that point. Salaries for football coaches are outrageous
Having said that you also noted that smart and Saban aren’t coming bc smart is a UgA guy and Saban is 75 or whatever. Dabo isn’t playing the NIL game and you’re seeing how that’s going
So who would you have hired who is more accomplished than Bk?
Realistic candidates only. Urban isn’t coaching again due to health and all the shite that came out about him so he’s a nonstarter as well.
Who ya got?
Posted on 11/2/23 at 7:04 am to jsmoke222000
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LSU could have cherry picked whoever they wanted for 95 million.
You’re right. They did. The my cherry picked Notre fricking Dame’s head coach. And in reality, LSU couldn’t have just waltzed into any coach’s office and said “hey coach, you’re coming to LSU.” You and I both know that, stop being a twat.
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He has 300 wins now if you include the vacated ND wins.
When they said LSU would have to vacate all those wins in the mid-2010s, I bet you were one of the loudest on here going “I don’t care I still count them.”
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After beating Florida State in 2021, kelly said the following on national TV: "I'm in favor of execution. Maybe our entire team needs to be executed after tonight."
You’re such a fricking chode. That was an old joke he was trying to make from John McKay.
How about this, if Brian Kelly being here bothers you so much, why don’t you just quit fricking watching and cease commenting? Douche.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 7:08 am to grizzlylongcut
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How about this, if Brian Kelly being here bothers you so much, why don’t you just quit fricking watching and cease commenting? Douche
Now here’s a guy who is all about problem solving.
Seems pretty easy doesn’t it? If you’re truly an LSU fan and you absolutely feel you can’t support the coach for whatever reason that’s fine. Go find another way to spend your time or support someone else but for the love of all that is good, stop spamming TD with the bullshite about what kind of car he drives lmao
Posted on 11/2/23 at 7:20 am to Wichita Co Tiger
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How about this, if Brian Kelly being here bothers you so much, why don’t you just quit fricking watching and cease commenting? Douche
Saints fans don't like dennis allen. How is me being an LSU fan & not liking BK any different?
I don't know why you guys have such a hard time with another persons opinion.
It is my opinion that BK will lose more games vs teams ranked in the top 10 than he will win here at LSU. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly own it. He is currently 2-3, so I'm correct as of now. Let's see how the next few years turns out.
Please bookmark this post so we can revisit this conversation 5 years from now.
Posted on 11/2/23 at 7:22 am to jsmoke222000
Who would you have hired who is more accomplished as a head coach ?
Posted on 11/2/23 at 7:43 am to Wichita Co Tiger
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Who would you have hired who is more accomplished as a head coach ?
He doesn’t have an answer for that, he just wants to bitch.
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