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re: LSU defense has played three horrible games against experienced veteran QBs
Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:32 pm to da prophet
Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:32 pm to da prophet
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Some fans on this board this refuse to face reality that it could get ugly.
It’s not going to get ugly with our offense. We may lose a shootout but it will be close.
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:34 pm to Phillytiger9
The matchup is not a somewhat inexperienced QB against LSU's defense, it's LSU's offense against Bama's defense. Bama is going to score some points against LSU's secondary, that's a given. If LSU can go up early and establish the run game and eat some clock then they will win, if the run game can't be established then Bama will win.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:38 pm to nicholastiger
In the OM game, all LSU needed was to convert a 3rd and 4. Had a bad play where Daniels rolls to the sideline and no WR was open. Daniels could not do anything. LSU gets the first down and takes more time off the clock.
Even with OM scoring, LSU still had a play at the end to win. Receiver let it go thru his hands in the end zone.
Even with OM scoring, LSU still had a play at the end to win. Receiver let it go thru his hands in the end zone.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:26 pm to Phillytiger9
Against bama at home, I think the refs will have an impact if it’s close. LSU needs to cut down on the penalties and play lights out for 4 quarters to overcome the “intangibles.”
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:37 pm to mtb010
quote:If LSU punts 3 times, Alabama wins.
The matchup is not a somewhat inexperienced QB against LSU's defense, it's LSU's offense against Bama's defense
Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:26 pm to Islandboy777
Current SP+ rankings (Off/Def):
FSU (12th/17th) - gave up 45, scored 24
Miss St (45th/60th) - gave up 15, scored 41
Arkansas (53rd/49th) - gave up 31, scored 34
Ole Miss (17th/34th) - gave up 55, scored 49
Mizzou (18th/22nd) - gave up 39, scored 49
Auburn (59th/44th) - gave up 18, scored 48
Army (116th/92) - gave up 0, scored 62
Alabama (15th/4th) - better offense than both Mizzou and Ole Miss per this metric.
Yes Milroe doesn't look like the best QB, but their offense has gotten better as a whole and their defense is great. Their style of offense might be a better matchup for LSU's D because the QB isn't your typical accurate pocket passer, but they run the ball well and Milroe is usually throwing to wide open receivers, which is why he has put up decent numbers.
If LSU can do decent against the run, force Milroe into tight-ish throwing windows (avoid busted coverages), and prevent him from scrambling too much, then they have a good shot at getting some stops. I do think LSU has gotten slightly better on defense from a tackling and awareness perspective, but they simply lack talent and experience in key positions. The pass rush and secondary is weak, which is a bad combo for getting off the field on 3rd down.
I do think LSU will be stopped on offense more than people are expecting since Bama is easily the best D they will face all year and Saban has two weeks to prepare, but we have great weapons at every position similar to 2019. Staying ahead of schedule on 1st and 2nd down will be key.
Hopeful outcome - 38-34 Tigers
FSU (12th/17th) - gave up 45, scored 24
Miss St (45th/60th) - gave up 15, scored 41
Arkansas (53rd/49th) - gave up 31, scored 34
Ole Miss (17th/34th) - gave up 55, scored 49
Mizzou (18th/22nd) - gave up 39, scored 49
Auburn (59th/44th) - gave up 18, scored 48
Army (116th/92) - gave up 0, scored 62
Alabama (15th/4th) - better offense than both Mizzou and Ole Miss per this metric.
Yes Milroe doesn't look like the best QB, but their offense has gotten better as a whole and their defense is great. Their style of offense might be a better matchup for LSU's D because the QB isn't your typical accurate pocket passer, but they run the ball well and Milroe is usually throwing to wide open receivers, which is why he has put up decent numbers.
If LSU can do decent against the run, force Milroe into tight-ish throwing windows (avoid busted coverages), and prevent him from scrambling too much, then they have a good shot at getting some stops. I do think LSU has gotten slightly better on defense from a tackling and awareness perspective, but they simply lack talent and experience in key positions. The pass rush and secondary is weak, which is a bad combo for getting off the field on 3rd down.
I do think LSU will be stopped on offense more than people are expecting since Bama is easily the best D they will face all year and Saban has two weeks to prepare, but we have great weapons at every position similar to 2019. Staying ahead of schedule on 1st and 2nd down will be key.
Hopeful outcome - 38-34 Tigers
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:11 pm to Phillytiger9
Do you, or anyone on this board actually trust the LSU DBs? I sure as shite don't, and not too confident about this game. Football is won in the trenches, and if LSU can't block , they're in trouble. The D-line couldn't do much against a bunch of walk ons last week, so what makes anyone think they will all of a sudden improve in the next 2 weeks? Bama is due for a big game on both sides of the ball.
LSU 23
Bama 31
LSU 23
Bama 31
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:40 pm to Adam Banks
FSU dominated LOS on both sides
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:58 pm to Phillytiger9
quote:I see many 3rd and 8-12 yard situations that Alabama will convert because Milroe will run for a first down. As bad as we think Milroe is, unless LSU can take him out of the game and get to the white boys at QB, LSU will have a difficult time winning this game
We have a golden opportunity to wreak havoc for Milroe by drawing up creative blitzes and forcing him to beat us with his arm.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:54 pm to bayou85
Easier said than done. We made Arkansas offense look like world beaters. They couldn't score a TD against the bulldogs...
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:13 pm to Phillytiger9
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Our defense is ranked 47 in the SP+ at the moment.
What in the world is SP+ ?????? These abbreviations are like a whole new language. Help me out. Thanks.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:23 pm to 6R12
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What in the world is SP+
“What is SP+? In a single sentence, it's a tempo- and opponent-adjusted measure of college football efficiency. I created the system at Football Outsiders in 2008, and as my experience with both college football and its stats has grown, I have made quite a few tweaks to the system.
SP+ is indeed intended to be predictive and forward-facing. It is not a résumé ranking that gives credit for big wins or particularly brave scheduling -- no good predictive system is. It is simply a measure of the most sustainable and predictable aspects of football. If you're lucky or unimpressive in a win, your rating will probably fall. If you're strong and unlucky in a loss, it will probably rise.”
Weekly article written by Bill Connelly on ESPN. Right now LSU is 10 and Bama is 3. Bama jumped quite a few spots this week because of all the bad performances from the other top 10 teams.
LSU also keeps rising. Number 2 offense. After the Ole Miss and Mizzou games, LSU’s D fell all the way down to the 70s. They’ve risen back up the last couple weeks to 47.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:43 pm to Phillytiger9
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have fully convinced myself this team isn’t losing again.
Ahh- frick it. Im riding with you.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:47 pm to Phillytiger9
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We have a golden opportunity to wreak havoc for Milroe by drawing up creative blitzes
Well there’s your problem.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:48 pm to Jaydeaux
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The key is punch Burton in the dick a few times and make him quit
I got a good hearty laugh out of this
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:03 pm to BigerTait
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I created the system at Football Outsiders in 2008,
So, we have you to thank for this ridiculous metric? Thanks a ton
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:14 pm to Adam Banks
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the first half against FSU was great
There's nothing great about 3 redzone trips only producing 3 points. That's Les Miles territory
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:54 am to BordyLSU
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So, we have you to thank for this ridiculous metric? Thanks a ton
Negative. It was a quote from the weekly article by Bill Connelly. I am not Bill Connelly.
I just think it is a way better metric than PPG or YPG, because it accounts for more factors. Its probably not perfect, but it shows that LSU's defense has been bad, but not worst in the country like people keep saying. It also shows that Bama's offense is not terrible like people keep saying.
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:00 am to lsufan_26
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I'd be okay with a bend but don't break gameplan to prevent the big plays and to keep things in front of us. If we can hold them to FGs on some possessions, we can win a shootout
The one potential problem here is that Bama eats the clock and limits LSUs possessions. Then they only need a couple stops and they can win.
Especially if they can hold us to FGs
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 8:00 am
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:12 am to Phillytiger9
I hope you're right but I don't see us stopping any team that has a QB with a pulse...
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