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re: The Left Is Brainwashing Youth Into Thinking Unions Are Good For Them

Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:45 pm to
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:45 pm to
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The cost of goods is going crazy and wages aren’t rising. The climate is ripe for union talk and expansion.


Perhaps because we can't fricking afford to increase wages. I'm struggling to make payroll, literally dipping into my personal savings to make payroll on a weekly basis now for about 4 months, while payroll expense is exponentially higher than any other COG on my P&L. I also barely pay myself anything. So you tell me, continue the status quo or close my doors, no one has a job anymore and I pivot into the next chapter in life.

fricking tell me what the right call is here.
Posted by PatriotLSU65
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 2:05 am to
Agreed. Employees just aren’t loyal anymore. A handshake and looking someone in the eye used to mean something.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 3:51 am to
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Perhaps because we can't fricking afford to increase wages. I'm struggling to make payroll, literally dipping into my personal savings to make payroll on a weekly basis now for about 4 months, while payroll expense is exponentially higher than any other COG on my P&L. I also barely pay myself anything. So you tell me, continue the status quo or close my doors, no one has a job anymore and I pivot into the next chapter in life.

fricking tell me what the right call is here.


This economy has fricked everyone. But on the flip side of your coin, workers are barely able to pay for rent and groceries. Should they also continue the status quo and become homeless?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 6:22 am to
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Perhaps because we can't fricking afford to increase wages. I'm struggling to make payroll, literally dipping into my personal savings to make payroll on a weekly basis now for about 4 months, while payroll expense is exponentially higher than any other COG on my P&L. I also barely pay myself anything. So you tell me, continue the status quo or close my doors, no one has a job anymore and I pivot into the next chapter in life.


I have learned that you are wasting your time typing that out.

The poster above is correct in that complaining about having a job is as old as having a job. There are people who have an employee mentality and there are people who have an entrepreneurial mentality.

The employe mentality includes a hardwired dogma that states the following:

1. Employers deliberately wish to give employees less than they deserve. There is a conference room in every corporate suite which upper management retires to every day, several times a day, wherein they rub their hands together, twist their mustaches, and belly laugh at how hard they are screwing the employees while deep breathing the smell of fire and brimstone from a miniature pit of hell in the corner. They don't give employees "less than they deserve" because they have to, they do it because they enjoy it.

2. Supply and demand doesn't apply to labor. Supply and demand works fine for the employee mentality when they are applying it to themselves as a consumer, but they are deeply offended when the same principle applies to them as an employee. At that point the employer is supposed to value their contributions much more than the market dictates.

3. Now, while the employer is The Great Satan for only valuing employee's contributions as the market dictates (which is to say, they only value it as much as the forces of demand and scarcity dictate, rather than some irrelevant value like "How much money I made the company last year"), the employee is perfectly justified in only valuing the employer to the degree that the market dictates. It's assumed that this is rightly only a one-way street. If an employee finds a better job, who could blame him or her for taking it? On the other hand, if the company finds a better employee...well, better duck and cover for that scenario.

4. The employee knows that they "deserve" a raise because groceries are more expensive this year than they were last year. The fact that everything is more expensive for the company too is of no concern to them whatsoever (not that it should concern them, but rather I should say it never occurs to them that the company is less able to give them a raise this year than they were last year for the same reason they are certain that they "deserve" one).

5. Companies only rightfully exist to provide for the employees needs and wants and "deserves." They exist for no other reason. Certainly not to maximize profits, (which is actually, in reality, the only reason that any company ever existed, and in fact is what they are legally obligated to do if they have shareholders.). Employers are supposed to value employees as people first and foremost (while, of course, employees have no such responsibility to employers).

What I have learned over time is that trying to reason with people who have an employee mentality around these (and others, this is not an exhaustive list) religious dogmas is about as productive as trying to convince Hamas that they should just let Israel have Jerusalem and give up on the whole Jihad thing.

The same wires in their brains that wire them as employees in the first place also hard wire these precepts. You can no more change them than you could make them start thinking like a duck.

My advice is to just remain silent.
This post was edited on 10/12/23 at 6:27 am
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