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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:59 pm to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 10/19/23 at 8:59 pm to LegendInMyMind
You mean he chose greed over logic?
Hhhhmmmmmmm
Hhhhmmmmmmm
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:19 pm to LegendInMyMind
Sounds similar to the US and Saddam. “Enemy of my enemy” tactic backfiring?
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:28 pm to Obtuse1
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All the options I have seen mentioned for clearing tunnels other than physically clearing them with soldiers all seem to forget there are 300 MILES of tunnels under Gaza.
I have a friend who was a tunnel rat in Vietnam. Toughest little fricker you’d ever meet. I wouldn’t wish what he had to do and went through there on anyone.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:34 pm to PrecedentedTimes
OSINTdefender
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U.S. Troops have been Attacked in Iraq and Syria over 7 Times in the last 48 Hours and the President of the United States just made absolutely Zero Mention of the Attacks or a Response in his Address to the Nation.
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U.S. Troops have been Attacked in Iraq and Syria over 7 Times in the last 48 Hours and the President of the United States just made absolutely Zero Mention of the Attacks or a Response in his Address to the Nation.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:42 pm to lz2112
Gas the Mfers. That’s the answer or maybe we can send them a few of our left ovet Neuton bombs. Save the big ones for Tehran
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 9:57 pm to I20goon
Why gas them when you can just flood them with sea water?
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:03 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Why gas them when you can just flood them with sea water?
I thought there were bombs they could put in tunnels that suck out all the air.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:03 pm to Havoc
quote:A reply I made on the Poli board's war thread works here too, so being lazy...
U.S. Troops have been Attacked in Iraq and Syria over 7 Times in the last 48 Hours and the President of the United States just made absolutely Zero Mention of the Attacks or a Response in his Address to the Nation.
I was replying to:
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At the risk of sounding dramatic, I ask this seriously… am I the only one here who legitimately believes we’re about to be dragged into a very regional significant conflict? Maybe even what will come to be known as WWIII? My only theory as to why we’re not absolutely fricking shite up in response to these recent attacks is knowing it’ll spark a major conflict. Seems the region is trying to bait us into it.
With:
quote:So now, hours later we have more attacks, that speech, and of course the "defectors" within the Dept. of State (with DoD soon to follow) it is obvious Iran knows exactly what the guardrails are and the American people are left wondering.
I'd say normally, yes under "cold war" conditions, pre-Iraq invasion. But no under these conditions for 2 reasons (primarily):
1. Iran knows this administration is "more tolerant" to Americans being killed on foreign soil and will even pay big bucks for the live ones.
2. Iran and it's proxies, knowing that tolerance and the traitors we have in our own government calculate that they can strike, escalate, and then talk "cease fire" and we will respond accordingly. So they don't push the envelope because they know exactly how far they can push and are ok with it. They don't want a broad conflict either, but they know they can achieve their aims without it.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:04 pm to NYNolaguy1
Regarding the 26th MEU and Bataan ARG, is that really all we have there?
There's tons of seapower off shore with two carrier groups, but I am not sure that only having 2,000 marines with the 26th MEU is going to really deter Hezbollah/Iran.
There's tons of seapower off shore with two carrier groups, but I am not sure that only having 2,000 marines with the 26th MEU is going to really deter Hezbollah/Iran.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:16 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:won't work. Ask Bob and Mike Spann's wife about it. With 300 miles of tunnels to fill even if the engineering is shite (it isn't) the seepage alone means you'd never fill it all. And the engineering is such that have planned for that (and gas) with "trapped pockets". Then there's still the fact that you still have to clear them. Period. Never leave an enemy behind you for one day he will rise up and defeat you - Shaka Zulu. You can't penetrate the heart of Gaza to the sea leaving those tunnels between you and the safety of the border without clearing them unless you are 100% certain you have collapsed all entrances and/or cleared them. Me personally, I expect to see a lot of cement trucks rolling because they are going to clear house to house and find every entrance methodically and just entomb them.
Why gas them when you can just flood them with sea water?
quote:thermobarics. and there will be alot of them used in the coming months. They will be used in clearing the tunnels. Everything from Shmels (Soviet) to our XM's will be used in large numbers. Modern day equivalent to the Viking blood eagle when it sucks your lungs out.
I thought there were bombs they could put in tunnels that suck out all the air.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:20 pm to I20goon
Did I see where someone mentioned the C-130 gunships might be getting involved?
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:28 pm to TutHillTiger
quote:I did see a post here somewhere, but nothing elsewhere (but I haven't looked for it either).
Did I see where someone mentioned the C-130 gunships might be getting involved?
I'm sort of surprised we don't see Puff making a nightly appearance frankly. Talk about fighting terror with terror... that's better than any laser show.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:41 pm to I20goon
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Mike Spann
Interesting tidbit. His daughter:
Alison Spann became a journalist and in 2021 was a news anchor in Biloxi, Mississippi.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:44 pm to I20goon
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Mike Spann's
Are you talking about “Johnny” Michael Spann? Former Marine Officer and died in Afghanistan as a CIA Ground Branch?
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:50 pm to I20goon
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am I the only one here who legitimately believes we’re about to be dragged into a very regional significant conflict?
You have to at least have an eye on it.
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Seems the region is trying to bait us into it.
This is 100% what is going on. What has been done so far is equivalent to gnats that we keep swatting. Currently, they will stay gnats until we either decide to fully engage or they mount a legit attack on something. I don't know where it goes, but Iran will keep some amount of plausible deniability using all their proxies.
Messy situation all around.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 10:53 pm to I20goon
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So now, hours later we have more attacks, that speech, and of course the "defectors" within the Dept. of State (with DoD soon to follow) it is obvious Iran knows exactly what the guardrails are and the American people are left wondering.
Makes sense now.
Like going into an arbitration where the opposing counsel knows your authority and limits, because your secretary leaked it to them.
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:01 pm to LegendInMyMind
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@hxhassan (Newslines Magazine)
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Two remarkable sentences in this speech by Saudi Prince Turki al-Faisal:
"I condemn Hamas for sabotaging the attempt of Saudi Arabia to reach a peaceful resolution” to the Palestinian plight.
"I condemn Israel for funneling Qatari money for Hamas"
Posted on 10/20/23 at 3:35 am to LegendInMyMind
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Rep. Tlaib first recklessly parroted, and now defiantly refuses to retract, Hamas disinformation about the tragic explosion at Al-Alhi Baptist Hospital. 1/4
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She instead shamelessly repeated the lie yesterday at an anti-Israel rally—even though President Biden, U.S. intel and other independent sources clearly said it wasn’t true. 2/4
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We waited for her to acknowlege the facts and take back her statements. @RepRashida’s blatantly false disinformation undermines our President and U.S. policy, and supports Hamas’s terror. 3/4
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Her sharing Hamas’s lie is endangering our servicemen and women, our diplomats, and other Americans at home and around the world. 4/4
Supporters of terrorists are terrorists.
Posted on 10/20/23 at 5:02 am to pankReb
Here is a link to "An Idiots Guide To Hamas.", a good primer for Talib and millions of others around the world who are protesting about something the know nothing about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIfCNVJlKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIfCNVJlKs
Posted on 10/20/23 at 5:40 am to pankReb
The reality is that any country that doesn't run Tlaib out of congress (and candidly, residency here at all) is largely beyond hope. It's one thing to support the Palestinian cause and take the initial biased pro-Palestinian side every time (even if largely unmeritorious), but to push a lie that led to international anti-American riots and continue to do so when even sympathetic outlets retract the claim is insane.
At some point this country has to have enough backbone to purge these cancers. Every one of these mini-crises is showing the gigantic cracks in our social and institutional foundation.
At some point this country has to have enough backbone to purge these cancers. Every one of these mini-crises is showing the gigantic cracks in our social and institutional foundation.
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