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re: Clay Schexnayder is a liar

Posted on 9/19/23 at 9:20 am to
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7095 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 9:20 am to
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The Louisiana voting system is not connected to the internet at any point


It does not need to be connected to the internet to have voting manipulated. People need to understand this.

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Each voting precinct can be audited and the totals submitted can be tracked back to a clerk's office


This sounds good but La votes are NOT counted here. Where are dominion votes counted? Indiana where the business is registered? Eastern Europe? No one really knows and Dominion is not forthcoming about this. Wouldn't you feel better if your vote was counted in La?

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paper ballots will set up back decades


This is utter nonsense, we did it for decades and had the votes counted by dinnertime. Paper ballots make it impossible to cheat.

This post was edited on 9/19/23 at 9:21 am
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1078 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 9:42 am to
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This sounds good but La votes are NOT counted here. Where are dominion votes counted? Indiana where the business is registered? Eastern Europe? No one really knows and Dominion is not forthcoming about this. Wouldn't you feel better if your vote was counted in La?


Election Day and Early Voting are 2 different animals and they are both allegedly counted locally. The day-of voting produces totals per machine that are printed in triplicate and signed by polling commissioners then sent to different locations. A copy is posted at the voting location that anyone can access or they can request from local clerk of court. These totals can be reconciled by anyone against the results posted on SOS website.

Early voting... well that is a bit of a mess to reconcile. Since the precincts are all mixed together it isn't so easy to reconcile and isn't the best situation for sure. The process is to lock all the machines in a warehouse or room and not to access them till voting day. On voting day the thumb drives with results are pulled and delivered to the registrar of voters to be counted with the mail in votes i think. So the process is supposedly local. No doubt there is a whole lot of room for improvement on early voting and potential for shenanigans. Allegedly locally done though.

NOTE: All software used in the process is indeed Dominion. Don't be fooled when they tell you that Louisiana does their own programming. What they mean is they use Dominion software to CONFIGURE the layout. Dominion software is indeed used to aggregate the results. This is done at the Clerk of Court level maybe (potential for shenanigans here).

They should post totals at every level of the process, precincts, Clerks and State.


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This is utter nonsense, we did it for decades and had the votes counted by dinnertime. Paper ballots make it impossible to cheat.


Some disagreement here. Spoiling a paper ballot would be easy to do. The other concern is that it is very very hard for the common person to audit the process. We have already seen in other states how hard it is to get the paper ballots produced after the fact. Even if we did get our hands on them, who is going to count them by hand?

Personally I like our current process in theory. With adjustments it would be a good mix of simplicity and transparency. But alas, looks like we are leaving this behind for BMDs, which have clearly been problematic in 2020. That is how they are planning to placate the masses who are asking for paper, with a system proven to be trouble.
This post was edited on 9/19/23 at 9:50 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37161 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 1:29 pm to
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This sounds good but La votes are NOT counted here. Where are dominion votes counted? Indiana where the business is registered? Eastern Europe? No one really knows and Dominion is not forthcoming about this. Wouldn't you feel better if your vote was counted in La?


They are abbsolutely counted here. Go hang around when the polls close. They open the machines up, run the reports, and then submit them to the CoC / State.
Posted by MonroeTigerstripes
Member since Jul 2016
536 posts
Posted on 9/19/23 at 1:44 pm to
The “dominion” systems in LA are not connected to the internet. The cartridge containing votes is removed from the voting machine and uploaded on a system with the clerk of court of each parish and Secretary of State representatives present. The total number of votes uploaded on the computer must match the paper receipt printed by each individual voting machine that coincides with the cartridge. This system really does have many checks and balances and it’s very safe.

Paper ballots can be ripe with fraud. Did you watch the whole presentation about arizona? It was because of paper ballots being counted MULTIPLE times, no way to verify signature, etc. I’m all for secure elections and paper ballots are NOT the way to go
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