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WSJ: The Coming Green Energy Bailout

Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:24 am
Posted by ragincajun03
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Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:24 am
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The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) includes hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies for green energy, yet now renewable developers want utility rate-payers in New York and other states to bail them out.

According to a report late last month by the New York State Energy Research and Development Authority (Nyserda), large offshore wind developers are asking for an average 48% price adjustment in their contracts to cover rising costs. The Alliance for Clean Energy NY is also requesting an average 64% price increase on 86 solar and wind projects.

The IRA includes federal tax credits that can offset 50% of a project’s costs. But renewable developers say their costs are increasing faster than inflation and that the projects will “not be economically viable and would be unable to proceed to construction and operation under their existing pricing,” says Nyserda.

Irony alert: One reason is that the government-forced green energy transition is driving up demand for equipment, material and labor. “Growing demand for renewable energy projects nationwide ‘has exacerbated inflation for renewable project cost components relative to broader inflation levels,’” Nyserda says, citing the Alliance for Clean Energy NY.

Green energy developers are blaming Russia’s invasion of Ukraine for increasing demand for renewable energy and its components. But the real culprits are government mandates and subsidies, which they lobbied for. Developers also blame rising interest rates for increasing project costs.


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The climate lobby says power from wind and solar is cheaper than from fossil fuels, but that’s true only with generous subsidies and near-zero interest rates. Price adjustments that renewable developers want in New York would make solar and wind two- to five-times more expensive than natural gas power.

Another irony: The IRA’s prevailing wage and domestic content conditions for bonus tax credits, which are necessary to make projects viable, inflate costs. That means U.S. taxpayers will pay more for the green corporate welfare, and utility ratepayers will pay more for renewable power. The climate lobby hits you coming and going.

Nyserda adds that “requests for inflationary relief on clean energy projects” have also been submitted in California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Indiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, New Mexico, and Rhode Island, among other states. Electric customers will get no such relief when their bills increase.

Meantime, the computer chip maker Micron Technology recently disclosed that its planned factories in upstate New York, which are set to receive up to $5.5 billion in state subsidies, will consume as much power as New Hampshire and Vermont combined. Where will all the power come from?

Don’t be surprised if the state eventually asks New Yorkers to turn down their thermostats or turn off the lights at some hours of the day. The green energy crunch and bailout are coming.


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Posted by Smeg
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Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:31 am to
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:32 am to
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The IRA includes federal tax credits that can offset 50% of a project’s costs. But renewable developers say their costs are increasing faster than inflation


So an industry that is a direct benefactor of the Inflation Reduction Act is saying it needs to increase their prices significantly because of inflation?



Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26087 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:38 am to
It’s almost like the Biden administration is trying to actively ruin this country. Someone please list one positive policy these jokers have implemented.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
8488 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:43 am to
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It’s almost like the Biden administration is trying to actively ruin this country. Someone please list one positive policy these jokers have implemented.



They created Trans Visibility Day
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71568 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:46 am to
I wish I had a relative in the Senate, I'd be rich.

We need to bring back stockades, and start charging lobbyists and politicians with treason.
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 7:47 am
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:49 am to
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They created Trans Visibility Day


These attention whores have no trouble being visible.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63338 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:53 am to
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their costs are increasing faster than inflation


Everyone's costs are increasing faster than the stated rate of inflation. It's why nobody believes the stated rates.

The inflation reduction act reduces inflation about as much as antifa is against facism.
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 7:54 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 7:59 am to
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It’s almost like the Biden administration is trying to actively ruin this country. Someone please list one positive policy these jokers have implemented.


957 days since they took office.

What’s Built?
What’s Back?
What’s Better?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13816 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:03 am to
This is why you let the free market work this out. Government ruins everything.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25951 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:14 am to
at least the scary orange man is in jail
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20327 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:14 am to
This green energy shite sure is costing me lots of money
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5219 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:17 am to
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This green energy Grift sure is costing me lots of money


Fixed it
Posted by DoItDoug
Member since Sep 2018
392 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:37 am to
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It’s almost like the Biden administration

You misspelled Obama administration.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:41 am to
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This is why you let the free market work this out. Government ruins everything.



How will the big guy get his 10% though?
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16960 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:43 am to
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957 days since they took office.

What’s Built? Progressive Crook politicians bank accts
What’s Back? Inflation, High interest rates, war, child trafficking
What’s Better?
Nothing
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41241 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:45 am to
You mean gov't manipulation of the market has negative, unintended consequences?
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5069 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 8:46 am to
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The climate lobby says power from wind and solar is cheaper than from fossil fuels, but that’s true only with generous subsidies and near-zero interest rates.



It's not true at all. It never has been true and never will be true. Both are, at this time, not serious, economical solutions. They require large, central government spending. Which requires a large, central government. Which requires a powerless citizenry. Which requires a lack of property and individual wealth... which is required for the large government spending, large government and subsidized, uneconomical energy. And then everyone is poor and miserable.

Which is how a very few WANT THINGS TO BE.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38811 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 10:23 am to
Texas just paid $3.4 billion to bail out natural gas producers.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21457 posts
Posted on 9/5/23 at 11:00 am to
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Texas just paid $3.4 billion to bail out natural gas producers.


1- It’s not for natural gas PRODUCERS. Utility gas providers like Atmos and CenterPoint do not drill for and produce oil & gas.

2- It is a loan bond, for the utility gas providers, so that they aren’t sending bills for $3,000 to utility consumers. They can spread those bills out over time.

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In fact, MY UNDERSTANDING, someone correct me please if I’m wrong, it’s more a bailout for consumers who rolled the dice for months/years on fluctuating, at the moment of demand rate contracts and finally lost on the gamble during that 48 hour period. Those folks did well years prior likely paying lower utility bills than the rest of us who lock in fixed rates. Then suddenly, now’s the once over 10 year time to pay up, and shocker…they hadn’t been collecting those savings to have available to pay their bills. Well, many of them didn’t. I know some who did have it available.

At least I think that’s why this bond is helping spread the bills out over months.

But alas, no natural gas producers are getting bailed out by that $3.4 billion. Those who drill for and produce natural gas were already paid for the commodity further up the stream.
This post was edited on 9/5/23 at 11:07 am
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