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re: Vivek. The man from nowhere

Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24276 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:53 am to
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He takes zero stands on anything

He said he wants to eliminate the FBI, IRS, CDC and the Department of Education. I may not agree with all of his ideas, but I definitely wouldn't say he takes zero stands on anything.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111607 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:55 am to
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I may not agree with all of his ideas, but I definitely wouldn't say he takes zero stands on anything.


Right. He’s just going to change those stands in the next interview he gives.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5567 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:55 am to
There's a lot of things he can be criticized for but not for his drug company. It's on the path to potentially becoming very successful and the investment it's drawn, including a partnership with Pfizer, has been warranted.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63198 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:56 am to
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We’re using Manchurian candidates as blueprints and Rules for Radicals as strategy.


Is there shame in using the enemy's game against him? If you haven't noticed the ideological war being waged against conservativism and more tragically centrist, rational ideals, then you should look into that.

That's not what I think Vivek is, but your womanly attempt at some weird guilt trip has also been noted.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71592 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:57 am to
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Vivek is a grifter. It is obvious to anyone who is paying attention.





Nobody knew DeSantis as a rep before gov and before latching on to trump.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111607 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:58 am to
That’s a wild valuation for a product with a relatively niche application.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111607 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 9:59 am to
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Is there shame in using the enemy's game against him?


There can be. If the enemy’s game is raping children, do you use the enemy’s game against him?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111607 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:00 am to
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Nobody knew DeSantis as a rep before


I’ll help you rephrase that. You were intimating that no one knew Ron DeSantis when he had won election to a Federal level position in the United States House of Representatives.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68180 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:01 am to
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We’re using Manchurian candidates as blueprints and Rules for Radicals as strategy.



Those are the rules currently.

If you don't play by them, is is impossible to win.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24276 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:02 am to
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I may not agree with all of his ideas, but I definitely wouldn't say he takes zero stands on anything.



Right. He’s just going to change those stands in the next interview he gives

We can say that about any politician, but the previous person said he doesn't take stands on anything and that clearly is not the case so far. Whether a politician turns out to be completely full of shite (usually) or not in following through on their stated intentions once elected is another topic in itself. But I have heard him consistently say he wants to eliminate the FBI, IRS, CDC, etc.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111607 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:03 am to
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If you don't play by them, is is impossible to win.


I’m going to argue that using a Communist organizing tactical manual as a blueprint for strategy is not a good idea as a general rule.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
5567 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:04 am to
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That’s a wild valuation for a product with a relatively niche application.


The UC plus Crohn's market is $12B annually.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63198 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:05 am to
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If the enemy’s game is raping children, do you use the enemy’s game against him?


Good Lord
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68180 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:11 am to
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I’m going to argue that using a Communist organizing tactical manual as a blueprint for strategy is not a good idea as a general rule.


The rules seem to work for left or right radicals.

Seems to be a set of tools that either side can use.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261531 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:16 am to
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But I have heard him consistently say he wants to eliminate the FBI, IRS, CDC, etc.


He'll just replace them with something nicer sounding.

Dudes a Bernie Bro.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:22 am to
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A biotech research company is not profitable for years and then COVID happens and its value goes up, attracting institutional investors in successful pursuit of making its shareholders money.

Then the CEO, who decides to run for president, steps down and liquidates a large portion of his shares at a great profit to fund the campaign.

This is evidence that Vivek is an inside man and cannot be trusted when he speaks on the need to reign in institutional investors like Blackrock and Vanguard (who invested in his company), or the need to end the department of education (a union pension fund was also invested in his campaign, likely through a mutual fund or basket of tech investments.)

The guy in the video concludes his monologue about the suspicious nature of investments with the reminder that he is no a financial analyst.
Matt Kim is a brilliant man and I trust his analysis completely
Posted by SNAKERIVER
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2016
386 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:26 am to
I agree. Smart guy, very engaging with amazing debate skills, but I think he is a plant. By whom. I have no idea.
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
3830 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:26 am to
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DeSantis

Is an honorary member of the deep state. Yale graduate, just like GWB, and he’s taken half a billion from the deep state.

You think he’s gunna go against those interest? Not a snowball chance in hell.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63198 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:27 am to
The guy went straight to child rape when confronted with an alternative opinion. He's playing by a different set of rules.

Apparently a candidate using eloquent and intelligent language with "Hope and Change" style messaging is the same as forcible sex with a minor. Or at least very communist I guess? I don't know, maybe he'll expound when he stops looking for criminal sex acts in every opposing viewpoint.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111607 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 10:27 am to
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Good Lord


Does Rules for Radicals promote unethical ideas as strategy for beating your opponents belies?
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