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re: Cpap-sleep apnea technology has a huge tech cheaper change

Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11470 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:07 pm to
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CPAP.com requires a prescription but one from your pcp is accepted and that's what I have on file at their Houston location. Now that its automated pressure control and you pay outside of insurance coverage your pcp should feel okey.

Insurance companies hate durable medical equipment coverage and its almost always better to buy direct at wholesale than mess with in-network coverage, list pricing, deductibles and paperwork

This is a very, very dumb post. It's full of extreme bullshite. I have 25 years in the field, and I'll explain.

First of all, two-night studies are EXTREMLEY rare now. Almost all sleep labs do split studies now. Half the night to confirm sleep apnea is present, then the other half to find the treatment pressure that treats it. Been that way for 10+ years. Do 2-night studies happen? Of course! But only the case of complex sleep apnea and central sleep apnea.

Secondly, a $650 Autopap is either cheap, cheap Chinese machine or a Resmed AS10 "Card to Cloud" machine. You absolutely do not want the cheap chinese shite. The Resmed machine is a good device, but lack the modem and bluetooth. That means in order to get the data off your machine you have to physically take the SD card to a DME and have them download it. So let's say you are a truck driver, or in any other profession where you are required to prove that you are using your CPAP to renew your professional license. You need this data so that your doc can verify the information. You bought your machine online, where are you going to get that info downloaded? A local place where you don't buy shite? I hope they tell you to kick rocks. So now you say, "I'm not a trucker driver, pilot, etc.. So I don't care". Maybe you don't need that info. Ok, now consider this. The big manufacturers have what is called a "one touch warranty". Your machine shits the bed under it's two year warranty, you walk into the DME where you got it, they pull another one off the shelf and you are good to go. Hmmm....how does that work with an online company? How many nights is it acceptable for you to go without it?

DME's are not putting out "card to cloud" machines. You will get a cpap with a wifi or cell modem. Why? Because it's fricking efficient, especially considering a shitload of insurance companies require PROOF that a person is using it, to pay the claim. That brings up another point.

In Alabama, BCBS pays $974 for a CPAP. Care to guess what the online companies are selling a CPAP for with a modem? The same fricking price! The difference is, if you have an issue with your machine, your mask, your pressure, whatever, you have a place you can walk into that has fricking respiratory therapist on staff! Buy it online, you are talking to some chick they hired away from Waffle House last week!

Online sites DO NOT FILE INSURANCE! I don't know about you, but if the price is the same, and my insurance is going to pick up even a small portion, I'd be an idiot to go online, put the whole thing on my VISA and wait a few days to get it, THEN HOPE I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WHERE I HAVE TO CALL TO GET SOME HELP!

Oh, and by the way, Autopaps are not new technology. They've been out for around 15 years. In fact, Resmed and Philips Respironics does not ever make a non-Autocpap now.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5967 posts
Posted on 8/25/23 at 10:56 pm to
Glad to hear from you, where ya been the last couple years. You do realize that after 25 years in the field technology has moved on and you are technically obsolete. What got me started this week was my wife going to a sleep lab to start the process requiring at home testing because of mobility issues. All okey but then they said the second test had to be done at their lab which had no mobility accommodations. Kinda obvious that could not be done so the proposed alternative was to prescribe an auto titration cpap.

Please review my post to understand that I recommend not using Insurance because it's cheaper and and a whole lot less hassle to buy it direct. All of my machines have had sd cards over the last 15 years. The first one was read one time to generate an insurance report, the second machine sd card was never read and had to be replaced after 4 year because it was full of useless never read data.

Maybe you could learn to code
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