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re: BR bus drivers mad over possible plan to change routes start times for some students

Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:13 pm to
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
4624 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:13 pm to
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Go to the schools and recruit these people.

Do you live in some alternate universe?

These are low paying jobs with very few benefits. Sure bus drivers may only work 20 hours a week but have you ever driven anywhere with a kid or kid(s) in the car? Imagine that x25 unrestrained with no AC.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10465 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:13 pm to
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FedEx starts at $38k.


FedEx also runs routes day and night, 6 days a week, the whole year.

And the drivers actually have to get off their seats to do things.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4068 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:14 pm to
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we need all 50 teachers for after and before school duty, etc
They rotate days. Even if we only needed 10, 20 of the remaining 25 have kids. Of the remaining 25, 15 could never get their CDL to drive a bus and another 10 married rich and would never “stoop so low.” See how it plays out?

Like a poster said, if it were a good job there would not be a shortage. This is a problem plaguing MANY Parishes btw.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37157 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:16 pm to
The only workable solution is to reduce the number of kids riding the bus.

Give parents a monthly $50 gift card if they. bring their kids to and from school.

The bus drivers are mad because they don’t want to work more hours driving more routes.

It would be three hours in morning and three hours in afternoon. At that point you are almost full time.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4068 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:17 pm to
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Everything you’re saying would be specific to the specific school.
Not in any cases where there are feeder schools.
Posted by Long Ball Larry
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2021
1400 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:20 pm to
Unsure why you took my comment as an indication that I was ‘upset’

Back to reality, let’s discuss the fact that youve proposed that we consider the input of bus drivers who say its hot driving a bus in the summer.
Posted by tigertrueAU
Canyon Lake Texas
Member since Oct 2009
1251 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:20 pm to
Here in comal county tx,
High school, middle and elementary all have staggered start times and we have a bus driver shortage, but the kiddos get home on time.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10465 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:21 pm to
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These are low paying jobs with very few benefits. Sure bus drivers may only work 20 hours a week but have you ever driven anywhere with a kid or kid(s) in the car? Imagine that x25 unrestrained with no AC.


After august everyone will forget there isn’t AC on the bus until this time next year.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63532 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:21 pm to
Man, you seriously need to sit this one out.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4068 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:26 pm to
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Man, you seriously need to sit this one out.
I think we need to send him to LDOE to fix this mess.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 9:28 pm
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3704 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:32 pm to
The issue they have is they want them to work longer hours for no extra pay. They wouldn’t mind it to much if they got paid for their extra work
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25842 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:32 pm to
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If high schools start at 7 - there will be even more drop outs.
Pretty sure that my High School’s first bell was not long after 7am.

Its been a while, but pretty darn sure I was getting up at 6am in high school.

Posted by Swoozie
Member since Jan 2021
1017 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:35 pm to
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Do you live in some alternate universe? These are low paying jobs with very few benefits. Sure bus drivers may only work 20 hours a week but have you ever driven anywhere with a kid or kid(s) in the car? Imagine that x25 unrestrained with no AC.

All I can think is these people don’t live in Baton Rouge or places like it. These drivers have to drive around kids, many who are delinquents, in BR traffic, in dangerous neighborhoods when it’s 110 degrees. They get no support from administration when there are issues on the bus and if they do try to discipline the kids they often have parents trying to fight them. I can’t even imagine what it would take to get me to take that job.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 9:36 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42299 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:39 pm to
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Pretty sure that my High School’s first bell was not long after 7am.
some have to be there around 7 now. The kids are probably a little different than when you went to school.

Did you go to class with a guy that was awaiting his trial for murder?
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4068 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:40 pm to
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The issue they have is they want them to work longer hours for no extra pay
And many have other jobs.

One of my good friends is an electrician. He drives the bus then expects to be home at a certain time to meet his helper and go wire houses. He can’t take 2 more hours out of his day.

Another friend who drives a bus works for a Lumber yard and they expect him there at 830, not 10.
Posted by Long Ball Larry
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2021
1400 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:03 pm to
Solid points.
And I have no viable solutions or suggestions to improve the situation for these people working a second job as an EBR school bus driver. Tough way to earn extra income , which has likely always been an easy way to earn extra income, but has suddenly become challenging.?.
Maybe Id say that with all things in life we have to take the good with the bad.
Did your friends who drive a bus as a 2nd job tell you how good they had it before they ran into the scheduling challenge they are faced with this year? Are they strong enough to adapt and still do their primary job with their secondary job being inconvenient?
If not, can they find a different secondary job that they wont cry to you about?
Do you catch my drift here?
Posted by PennsTiger
Member since Feb 2020
200 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:46 pm to
How? It doesn’t seem possible with the current times. Do they work evening or overnight jobs? Can’t get in 8 hours between drop of and pickup at the current school times.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
5316 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:53 pm to
This is entirely normal in larger cities. Are you gonna have elementary, middle, and high school bus drivers with their own busses running one half-hour route per day? Or would you be smart and have one driver with one bus drive three routes each morning and afternoon for the three different schools at staggered times?

More simply, would you, as a tax payer, rather pay for the service or pay 3x for the exact same service? Call me crazy but I’d rather pay 1x than 3x for the same result.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4068 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:54 pm to
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Did your friends who drive a bus as a 2nd job tell you how good they had it before they ran into the scheduling challenge they are faced with this year?
They don’t drive for EBR Parish.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4068 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 11:00 pm to
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How? It doesn’t seem possible with the current times. Do they work evening or overnight jobs? Can’t get in 8 hours between drop of and pickup at the current school times.
Well the electrician owns the company. Not sure what kind of arrangement the lumber yard guy has with hours but most bus drivers I know drive as a 2nd and part time job.

I know of one who owns a tire store and another, a small nursery.
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