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re: Meanwhile, in South Africa, killing white people is becoming ever more popular of an idea
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:50 am to Godfather1
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:50 am to Godfather1
quote:Now, yes. I could swear that he has said he grew up in Louisiana, but I could certainly be confusing him with someone else.
The fact that SOSFAN is in South Carolina tends to make me question the Texas educational system.
If so, I have no problem admitting the error.
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:51 am to AggieHank86
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The percent of White "farmer murders" is almost EXACTLY the rate one would expect if the killings were completely race-neutral (73% of the land and 70% of the murders).
In a vacuum, perhaps.
You’re ignoring the fact that SA political leaders have called for genocide of the Boers.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:52 am to Godfather1
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In a vacuum, perhaps.
exactly. I'll look for the motives.
They've stated what they are doing.
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You’re ignoring the fact that SA political leaders have called for genocide of the Boers.
His media told him differently.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 11:54 am
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:52 am to AggieHank86
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SOS and Roger continue to make me look stupid.
Fixed it for you
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:53 am to SOSFAN
quote:That is a cute selective edit, SOS. The full post makes it clear that I was saying that there is no evidence that POLITICAL violence against White farmers is anything other than an isolated event.quote:That's your words pedohank and it's already been shown that you're wrong multiple times but you just don't have the ability to admit fault.
There just isn't evidence that it is anything other than an isolated event.
AGAIN, 73% vs 70%. AGAIN, 1.8% vs 8.3%. Explain that data, if the murders of Whites are all racially-motivated.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:54 am to AggieHank86
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AGAIN, 73% vs 70%. AGAIN
what are the motives?
What have they said they were going to do?
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:54 am to SOSFAN
quote:Then I misremembered, and I apologize to the Louisiana educational system. Presumably, it was the South Carolina system which produced a functional illiterate.
I've never lived in Louisiana moron.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:57 am to Godfather1
quote:I am not ignoring it at all. I am looking at hard numbers.quote:In a vacuum, perhaps.
The percent of White "farmer murders" is almost EXACTLY the rate one would expect if the killings were completely race-neutral (73% of the land and 70% of the murders).
You’re ignoring the fact that SA political leaders have called for genocide of the Boers.
If 95% of the farm murders next year are suddenly White folks, I will have no problem acknowledging that this rhetoric may well have increased the "racial" component of farm murders.
But, NOW, it clearly is just not yet a factor.
NOW, thugs and criminals are killing and robbing people (White, Black, Coloured and Asian) who live in isolated places which make them easy victims.
NOW, "South African White Genocide" is no less demagoguery than "Kill the Boer."
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 8/14/23 at 11:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:What media is that, Roger?
You’re ignoring the fact that SA political leaders have called for genocide of the Boers.quote:
His media told him differently.
I have already described this guy as being a dangerous demagogue.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:The data seem to say that no one is taking seriously his advice/instruction to "Kill the Boer," given that White farm murders are slightly LOWER than would be expected statistically (70% of murders vs 73% of farm ownership).quote:what are the motives? What have they said they were going to do?
AGAIN, 73% vs 70%. AGAIN
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:05 pm to AggieHank86
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The data seem to say that no one is taking seriously his advice/instruction to "Kill the Boer," given that White farm murders are slightly LOWER than would be expected statistically (70% of murders vs 73% of farm ownership).
What are the motives?
Thats all that matters.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:06 pm to AggieHank86
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Again, that does NOT seem to support a racial motivation for most farm murders.
You're being obtuse and frankly insufferable.
The murders frequently include aspects such as the deceased being strung up on a pole for everyone to see. These are racial hate crimes. If you want to pick nits, there is certainly an economic piece to the crime, the have-nots taking from those that have. But in South African society being a white person is synonymous with being affluent and being black means being poor. The racial hate is a toxic mix of revenge, economics, and rhetoric driven by the culture and politics of black South Africa.
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Mbombela - A wheelchair-bound farmer and his family were assaulted and robbed on their farm in Mpumalanga, Netwerk24 reported on Tuesday.
"They forced my father to repeat 'I love black people'," daughter Monique Lange, 34, was quoted as saying.
Five armed men jumped over a fence, attacked 70-year-old Johan Lange, from Kiepersol, threw him out of his wheelchair and assaulted him on his farm on Saturday around 22:00.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:09 pm to Mike da Tigah
And I’m ridiculed for wanting to go to Alaska and club seals……
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:11 pm to WizardSleeve
quote:Of course this happens. I have not said otherwise. The question is whether it is the norm or whether it is the exception.
Mbombela - A wheelchair-bound farmer and his family were assaulted and robbed on their farm in Mpumalanga, Netwerk24 reported on Tuesday.
"They forced my father to repeat 'I love black people'," daughter Monique Lange, 34, was quoted as saying.
Five armed men jumped over a fence, attacked 70-year-old Johan Lange, from Kiepersol, threw him out of his wheelchair and assaulted him on his farm on Saturday around 22:00.
You have provided one instance among the 59 murders referenced above. If the other 58 are simple "killings to steal stuff," 1/59 constitutes an "exception" ... not "the rule."
quote:Only to someone who has already formed his opinions based upon anecdotal evidence and who chooses to ignore hard data.
You're being ... insufferable.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:12 pm to WizardSleeve
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You're being obtuse and frankly insufferable.
His MO
I take these people's word for it. They claim they are killing white farmers, I believe them.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:13 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
The data seem to say that no one is taking seriously his advice/instruction to "Kill the Boer," given that White farm murders are slightly LOWER than would be expected statistically (70% of murders vs 73% of farm ownership).
Your stats show white farmer murders to be far higher than would be expected statistically. You would expect a demographic like farm owners to be far underrepresented as murder victims, and urban residents to be overrepresented.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:14 pm to Possumslayer
quote:As I understand it, the reason for clubbing them is to avoid damaging the pelt, right?
And I’m ridiculed for wanting to go to Alaska and club seals……
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:14 pm to Possumslayer
quote:
And I’m ridiculed for wanting to go to Alaska and club seals……
Youre probably the wrong race. Need to darken yourself a bit.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:18 pm to AggieHank86
Your claims & denials are certain to be of comfort to the victims.
Those still alive, that is.
Those still alive, that is.
Posted on 8/14/23 at 12:21 pm to AggieHank86
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quote:
So it looks like a white farmer was killed a week in 2017. About 30% more are non white (mainly Asian or Indian, a few black.)
Whites own 73% of the farmland in South Africa, and they account for 70% of the farm murders.
Statistically, that is EXACTLY what one would expect if the murder are NOT racially motivated, is it not?
This is so dumb. There are no murders on black-owned farms. Non-whites get killed on the white-owned farms. You are drawing a false relationship by that 2017 data.
Stop with the 73% vs 70% BS until you can show everyone that 30% of farm murders are happening on the farms owned by blacks.
You cant.
Find us one news story of a black owned farm having issues like the owner being tied up, beaten, strung up on a pole please.
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