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re: If Trump doesn’t debate, how is that different from Biden hiding in the basement?
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:16 pm to Colonel Flagg
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:16 pm to Colonel Flagg
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So your stance is Trump hasn’t at all I guess.
My stance is that Trump did a shite job of draining the swamp...which is what he ran his campaign on. If anything, he strengthened it by giving swamp people a position of power(Pence, Wray, letting Fauci destroy the country late in 2020 when people knew it wasn't as bad).
Trump stated himself that he couldn't remove Fauci because the media would say bad things about him. I'm being dead serious.....that isn't me exaggerating.
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Desantis also hasn’t truly taken the heat yet as the primary target of the opposition.
But Trump has and failed. He had to use EO's because he couldn't get anyone to work with him and they were ALL thrown out on day 1 of Biden. He couldn't codify anything meaningful and he will most likely have even less people willing to work with him now because of how many times he's thrown people under the bus. He will be a lame duck President(if he even gets that far).
And democrats will absolutely destroy republicans in the midterms(look at 2018 and 2022) and in 2028.
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Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:17 pm to BobBoucher
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China
Trade
So he got "China" and "Trade" as accomplishments? How does that work?
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Border security
That completely evaporated the day after he left office?
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:18 pm to LSUnation78
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Yea, money is money. Every politician, including Trump, has taken donations from establishment types.
Desantis will probably be best equipped to oversee the machinations of any swamp in his admin. Not letting them just run roughshod in dark.
In a vacuum, Vivek fits my preferred profile. Successful in private industry, not a lawyer building wealth as a politician for their entire life. Founding fathers weren’t the best at government or law. Sure some were lawyers, but as a whole they came from many different walks of life. In an idyllic world, I would like for us to get back to something closer to that.
This world obviously isnt idyllic, so here we are.
My problem with Vivek is he was a staunch democrat until recently. I can't dismiss the possibility that he's still a Democrat trying to torpedo republicans.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:19 pm to pankReb
Agree to Disagree
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:19 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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China
Trade
So he got "China" and "Trade" as accomplishments? How does that work?
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Border security
That completely evaporated the day after he left office?
My favorite is him just saying "military" without absolutely no other context.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:20 pm to pankReb
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You're making the argument that he's a pussy.
No, that he's smarter than the RINO / WEF wing of the Party.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:21 pm to pankReb
Yes, my point being in an idyllic world we dont have the undertones of the culture war.
It would just be someone capable of thinking through all the aspects of a problem, and coming to a solution that is best for the majority of Americans.
As it just isn't that simple (idyllic)… I run into the same concern you mentioned. Which leads me back to more lawyers. It is what it is.
It would just be someone capable of thinking through all the aspects of a problem, and coming to a solution that is best for the majority of Americans.
As it just isn't that simple (idyllic)… I run into the same concern you mentioned. Which leads me back to more lawyers. It is what it is.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:23 pm to Colonel Flagg
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Agree to Disagree
on some things....yes.
But not on all. There is no "Agree to Disagree" when it comes to Trump bringing in the GOPe All-Star team to run his campaign or the fact that he was afraid of backlash by removing Fauci. Or that the majority of his accomplishments was reversed by Biden on Day 1 because Trump wasn't able to codify it.
You can agree to disagree on the why of those things....but they are factual.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:24 pm to LSUnation78
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It would just be someone capable of thinking through all the aspects of a problem, and coming to a solution that is best for the majority of Americans.
Ron suspending the State Attorney is a great example of this.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:24 pm to pankReb
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My favorite is him just saying "military" without absolutely no other context.
It's like he's just saying random names of things that Trump says he's in favor of.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:29 pm to NIH
Believe me, if Trump isn't debating it's because he truly believes he has the nomination sewn up.....just as Biden knew he was going to win in 20. There's no other reason for a candidate to use this tactic.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:37 pm to geauxbrown
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just as Biden knew he was going to win in 20
Biden took part in every debate in 2020
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:43 pm to NIH
About the same ... but the difference will be that Trump won;t hide for long as his ego will not be able to take what he hears on TV next week and he'll be around for the 2nd one in Sept. It is going to be ugly for Trump.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:44 pm to NIH
It’s a good question. From his point of view, I’d say there’s little to be gained from the debate.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:49 pm to pankReb
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bringing in the GOPe All-Star team
All-Star team membership is probably up for some debate. I don’t doubt he is going to have establishment people just like every campaign will. That doesn’t make him lock-step establishment.
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fact that he was afraid of backlash by removing Fauci
I don’t know why you are hung up on this. There are many valid reasons this is a stupid thing to get hung up on even if you are the President and you grow into the opinion he is doing his job very badly.
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majority of his accomplishments was reversed by Biden on Day 1 because Trump wasn't able to codify it
I mean if others are willing to burn the place down like the democrats we are stuck with it. It not going to change overnight. What has happened is the democrats have had to be extremely corrupt to undo things. In the past they just don’t get done at all.
Posted on 8/10/23 at 12:56 pm to Colonel Flagg
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All-Star team membership is probably up for some debate. I don’t doubt he is going to have establishment people just like every campaign will.
Which members of Ron’s campaign also ran GWB’s campaign, Paul Ryan’s SuperPAC, or is Lindsey Graham?
Posted on 8/10/23 at 1:53 pm to pankReb
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My favorite is him just saying "military" without absolutely no other context.
If you don’t know what he did wrt military, you’re just being obtuse and I’m not going to change your mind or do your homework for you.
This post was edited on 8/10/23 at 1:54 pm
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