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re: Former Players, Staff Reveal Troubling Allegations of Toxic Culture Under P.J. Fleck
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:10 pm to RedHawk
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:10 pm to RedHawk
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Former Players,
Such soft bullshite
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Dan Nichol, Minnesota’s head football strength and conditioning coach who followed Fleck over from Western Michigan and interned at Iowa under disgraced strength coach Chris Doyle, gathered the team together after Fleck was hired, one of the former players said. The instruction was simple: Clap whenever Fleck entered the locker room.
“We had to [practice giving Fleck ovations] multiple times — the first time, because some other people in the back were not moving as quick as he wanted,” a third player told FOS.
Two other former players said that Fleck would reenter a room if he didn’t like the ovation he received.
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said the second player. “He wanted you to be family, and he wanted you to do whatever he wanted you to do.”
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After that first team meeting in 2017, players received a three-ring binder they were required to memorize and on which they were tested. FOS obtained several pages of the binder used by Fleck during his time at Minnesota.
The third player said that one acronym stood out: F.A.M.I.L.Y., short for “Forget About Me, I Love You.”
“He was making us say, forget about yourself as an individual,” the player said. “I was baffled because it’s not anything logical. If you forget about yourself, then who are you?”
Added a fourth player: “It’s based around Fleck’s ego. You have to talk a certain way. You have to be a certain way. … Within that building of the University of Minnesota, it’s very much like brainwashing.”
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There was only one acceptable answer when Fleck and other staff members asked, “How are you doing?”
“I’m elite.”
“It was sickening because I wasn’t OK,” the first player said, “I wasn’t in a good mental spot. I was struggling. I was fighting every day just to get by or find hope. It’s not natural to say when someone asks how you’re doing to say, ‘I am elite.’ When I said, ‘I’m good,’ [Fleck] would respond, ‘Oh, you’re not elite?’ He would either get all frustrated and walk off, or I’d be told, ‘You’re supposed to say elite.’ Inside, I was not feeling anywhere near that.”
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Former Players, Staff Reveal Troubling Allegations
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:11 pm to SPEEDY
Yeh I hope every player in that article and the journalist that wrote it have a horrible life with far ugly nagging wives that cheat on them
That is such whiny baby pussy shite
That is such whiny baby pussy shite
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:13 pm to SPEEDY
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The third player said that one acronym stood out: F.A.M.I.L.Y., short for “Forget About Me, I Love You.”
“He was making us say, forget about yourself as an individual,” the player said. “I was baffled because it’s not anything logical. If you forget about yourself, then who are you?”
These motherfrickers need to watch Goon.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:21 pm to SPEEDY
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Dan Nichol, Minnesota’s head football strength and conditioning coach who followed Fleck over from Western Michigan and interned at Iowa under disgraced strength coach Chris Doyle, gathered the team together after Fleck was hired, one of the former players said. The instruction was simple: Clap whenever Fleck entered the locker room. “We had to [practice giving Fleck ovations] multiple times — the first time, because some other people in the back were not moving as quick as he wanted,” a third player told FOS. Two other former players said that Fleck would reenter a room if he didn’t like the ovation he received.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:26 pm to SPEEDY
disgruntled players have all the power now
it's one big money grab
it's one big money grab
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:29 pm to SPEEDY
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“We had to [practice giving Fleck ovations] multiple times — the first time, because some other people in the back were not moving as quick as he wanted,” a third player told FOS.
Two other former players said that Fleck would reenter a room if he didn’t like the ovation he received.
Not toxic, but what a douche
Posted on 7/26/23 at 3:24 pm to SPEEDY
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Fleck would reenter a room if he didn’t like the ovation he received
Who among us doesn't do this?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 3:24 pm to SPEEDY
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Dan Nichol, Minnesota’s head football strength and conditioning coach who followed Fleck over from Western Michigan and interned at Iowa under disgraced strength coach Chris Doyle, gathered the team together after Fleck was hired, one of the former players said. The instruction was simple: Clap whenever Fleck entered the locker room.
“We had to [practice giving Fleck ovations] multiple times — the first time, because some other people in the back were not moving as quick as he wanted,” a third player told FOS.
Two other former players said that Fleck would reenter a room if he didn’t like the ovation he received.
This seems like a really simple way to measure "buy in" and while weird, it's also pretty smart.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 3:33 pm to SPEEDY
Basically just calling out his douchey motivational approach. Not toxic. The elite thing is so cringe.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 4:12 pm to SPEEDY
You have to realize, in the left-wing media and American academia, the college football head coach is the embodiment of the exploitative white male power structure. On top of that, college football is massively popular among males in the South and Midwest - which tends to skew conservative. Anything that degrades or eliminates cultural and social activities favored by that group is to be supported. If, at the same time, you can humiliate and ruin these evil white male coaches; well, that's just a cherry on top. Look how 90% of the pro-NIL coverage was portrayed.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 6:12 am to SPEEDY
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Two other former players said that Fleck would reenter a room if he didn’t like the ovation he received.
I’ve done this at work before.
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He was making us say, forget about yourself as an individual,” the player said. “I was baffled because it’s not anything logical. If you forget about yourself, then who are you?”
Guess this guy has never seen Remember the Titans.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 6:28 am to SPEEDY
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There was only one acceptable answer when Fleck and other staff members asked, “How are you doing?”
“I’m elite.”
“It was sickening because I wasn’t OK,” the first player said, “I wasn’t in a good mental spot. I was struggling. I was fighting every day just to get by or find hope. It’s not natural to say when someone asks how you’re doing to say, ‘I am elite.’ When I said, ‘I’m good,’ [Fleck] would respond, ‘Oh, you’re not elite?’ He would either get all frustrated and walk off, or I’d be told, ‘You’re supposed to say elite.’ Inside, I was not feeling anywhere near that.”
Imagine giving this quote and thinking you don’t come off as a gigantic pussy
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