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Solar Panels - Yay or Nay

Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:35 am
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
964 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:35 am
Is this a scam or is it worth it?
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4165 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:36 am to
Scam


My favorite is when the install them over top of roof that obviously needs replacing.

Lots of people like getting scammed though. Just look at gutter guards.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 10:38 am
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5607 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:36 am to
Could they be anything in between?
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4117 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:37 am to
What I want to know is what you do when you have to re-shingle the roof.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
27586 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:37 am to
If you're paying full price, it's a scam.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61480 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:38 am to
Look at a map of solar irradiation.


Red/dark red = yes
Orange = Maybe

The rest = No


This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 10:40 am
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:38 am to
Depends why you want them

If you're worried about losing power you're far better off with a backup natural gas generator or something

If you're worried about losing power and are mostly off the grid or far from civilization then i can understand the appeal
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35714 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:39 am to
Well it’s dark half the time but they still charge you full price. You should be able to figure it out from there.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4756 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:39 am to
I've seen some illustrations where they are using solar panels for patio covers. That may make sense, but not on your roof.
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
1886 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:50 am to
I have solar panels. My elec bill for June was $6. Solar powered the rest from energy stored in batteries.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7872 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:53 am to
It all depends on where you live and how much sun you get. Our house has them and in the last 12 months I've paid a total of $114 for electricity, but I live in CA where we get sun basically everyday.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55377 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:57 am to
I had a neighbor who built his own setup. He bought the panels, the rest (battery setup, storage, etc.) he put together himself. He saved a hell of a lot of money, and was legitimately off the grid as far as electricity was concerned.

He also had an outdoor incinerator with a heat pump for Winter, and the best well water within 50 miles.

He let his wife talk him into selling the place and moving to "town".
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:00 am to
I don’t really know shite about them except that I have one friend who has them and his latest Entergy bill was like $50
Posted by adamau
Member since Oct 2020
3581 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:00 am to
Not a bright idea
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12422 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:00 am to
Not a scam, but don’t see how it’s possible to recoup the cost. You prob won’t live in your house long enough to do so and they don’t raise the property value to a buyer.

Last I heard $100/panel to remove for a new roof and your trusting the Mexican guy to put them back on right.
Posted by TigerDude
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
210 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:08 am to
We bought a house that had them installed previously and our electric bill is less than $100 a month. Our neighbors are always over $300. I was not a believer before but I can't deny the savings on my bill.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
10098 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:20 am to
The scam is that you need 7-10KW worth of panels in Louisiana to reduce your bill by half; maybe more if your house is bigger than 2500sqft.

They want to lease it to you (vs you owning it outright) because they get all the government tax incentives and future asset depreciation. A ROI on a leased system is around 2 years in the right state.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 11:21 am
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11875 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Solar Panels - Yay or Nay


it all depends on your individual situation.

1) How long you plan to stay n the house
2) age of roof. if older roof, you have higher chance to need to pull off the panels to replace room (this will add to the payback time)
3) gas/electric house? all electric?
4) trees around the house that have potential to block light exposure.
5) trees/dirt feilds/construction that could add to dust/pollen that coats the panels reducing exposure
6) hours of sun per day
7) quality of panels. most panel effeciency will drop between 0.5 % and 3% per year. at 0.5% loss in 20 years they will produce at max 90% of original output.
8) are you getting a tax break? yes. then years of payback will decrease, no the full term payback

say you buy a 6kW system for $20,000 (no tax break) and save $150/mo. without factoring in efficiency loos over time, you have an 11+ year payback. (on a 20-25 year lifespan)

a $20k invstment for 11 years at 4% would be worth $30k,......

Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8914 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 11:47 am to
Back when Obama was paying you back for the majority of them or wanting to, yes.

I wouldn’t pay full price for them.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 11:51 am
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:02 pm to
Massive scam

Doesn’t save you all that much money

You’re on the hook for tens of thousands of dollars

Don’t try selling your home if you still owe money on them. Otherwise you’re gonna have to pay them off, hardy any buyer out there is willing to assume a separate loan on solar

Also, it adds zero value to your home when it comes to selling. No buyer is going to want to pay 10-20k over market value for a home with solar, when they can get one without
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 12:07 pm
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