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Biden's Back Door Student Loan Forgiveness

Posted on 7/13/23 at 9:54 am
Posted by anc
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 9:54 am
Just got out of a webinar with Department of Education. Here's what Biden has planned to get around student loan forgiveness.

It's called the SAVE Plan and it will replace the current Income-Driven Repayment Plans. All borrowers will be eligible

No payments required for those who earn less than 225% of federal poverty line ($32,800 currently) - up from $22000 now.

No interest if payments are made on time. (Includes $0 payments in scenario above)

Payments capped at 5% of discretionary income (down from 10%)

Borrowers with balances of $12,000 or less will get loans canceled after 10 years. For every $1,000 over this, cancellation will come after additional year.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 9:56 am to
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Borrowers with balances of $12,000 or less will get loans canceled after 10 years. For every $1,000 over this, cancellation will come after additional year


Methuselah is happy his student loans will be forgiven before he dies.
Posted by Lawyered
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Member since Oct 2016
29487 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 9:57 am to
Sigh…

I shouldn’t have refinanced years ago when I did.

Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 9:58 am to
This should not hold up in court
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 9:58 am to
Real life examples.

Jim went to engineering school and has $20,000 in loans. He has a nice $60,000 salary. His required payment will be $113 for up to 18 years.

Mary went to gender studies school and got $100,000 in loans. She works as a barista at Starbucks and makes $20,000. She will never have to make a payment as long as her income is not over $32,800.

They know what they are doing.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 10:02 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 9:59 am to
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No interest if payments are made on time. (Includes $0 payments in scenario above)

I don't really have a problem with this one. The rate on student loans from the government shouldn't be as high as they are.
Posted by i am dan
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 9:59 am to
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No interest if payments are made on time. (Includes $0 payments in scenario above)


Only one I'm willing to listen to.

Screw the rest. You borrow money. You pay it back. All the other noise is bullshite. Pretty simple.

This is simply buying votes.

Just imagine borrowing $60,000 from a bank and expect not to pay it back. Just ridiculous.
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 10:02 am
Posted by jcaz
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 10:03 am to
It’s funny because interest free loans and 30 year terms would be very generous.

Yet these idiots will still whine about how they can’t pay their bills and continue to demand full forgiveness.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 10:04 am to
so, how should I spend my refund since I paid my shite off decades ago?
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 10:09 am to
Who can’t pay a $12000 loan back after 10 years? Thats $100 a month
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 10:10 am to
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Biden's Back Door


I thought that was Kamala bent over.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28114 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 10:12 am to
it will go back to the courts

i dont know why obama thinks he's so clever. the courts have crushed his agendas when it hits federal courts.
Posted by ChexMix
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 10:13 am to
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Borrowers with balances of $12,000 or less will get loans canceled after 10 years. For every $1,000 over this, cancellation will come after additional year.


So if you owe 100k, your debt will be cancelled after you die
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 10:44 am to
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Biden's Back Door


A thread title that caused me to throw up in my mouth a little.

Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23119 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 10:51 am to
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No interest if payments are made on time.


Yes please. That’s all I’m asking for. At the very least, lower it significantly.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
9775 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:05 am to
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Borrowers with balances of $12,000 or less will get loans canceled after 10 years. For every $1,000 over this, cancellation will come after additional year.


10 years after what?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32016 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:49 am to
This is the kind of stuff the GOP should have come up with.


Now Biden gets to play the hero all
Over the place.

“I wanted to cancel your loans but the Republicans stopped me!” “At least I did this!”
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3578 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 11:49 am to
quote:

Just got out of a webinar with Department of Education. Here's what Biden has planned to get around student loan forgiveness.

It's called the SAVE Plan and it will replace the current Income-Driven Repayment Plans. All borrowers will be eligible

No payments required for those who earn less than 225% of federal poverty line ($32,800 currently) - up from $22000 now.

No interest if payments are made on time. (Includes $0 payments in scenario above)

Payments capped at 5% of discretionary income (down from 10%)

Borrowers with balances of $12,000 or less will get loans canceled after 10 years. For every $1,000 over this, cancellation will come after additional year.



Seems pretty fair really. I have zero problems with this.
Posted by fjlee90
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Member since Nov 2016
7857 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 1:09 pm to
I would settle for this on one condition, the federal government no longer makes student loans. It reverts to the private sector and becomes risk based. Otherwise this just reinforces bad behavior.

Watch universities payrolls and tuition drop like a rock when the gravy train dries up.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16467 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 2:37 pm to
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No payments required for those who earn less than 225% of federal poverty line ($32,800 currently) - up from $22000 now.

I am assuming this would get adjusted every year. Also, do they consider the income for the household or just the individual?

Kick out a few kids and that federal poverty level can be $30k, which means as long as you make less than $67.5k no more student loans.
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