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re: LE TOUR v.110: All Things Tour de France 2023-That's a Wrap! Results in Post 2
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:54 pm to Ingeniero
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:54 pm to Ingeniero
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Phil's arguing in the comments that improving tech, nutrition, recovery, etc. is why we're seeing superhuman efforts. That's fine and it makes some sense. But when you compare apples to apples, what Jonas is doing is an enormous anomaly. Tech improvements don't make someone gap generational riders like they're standing still in a way that no one's ever done
That is the same argument that Team Sky apologists made before we learned about jiffy bags, abuses of TUEs, and Froome’s Salbutamol positive.
I mean, even a beloved racer like Nairo couldn’t be bothered to try hard enough not to get DQed for his positive for Tramadol. Now, Jonas isn’t beating the pants off the field just using Tramadol…but Phil is either being naive or cynical. My bet is the latter…he’s always done his best to appeal to casuals, non racers, and Freds with his schtick.
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 9:06 pm to Bunsbert Montcroff
I'm wondering if they will pull Pogacar out - he's saying he's 'dead', not looking good as if he's sick or something. Might be over-trained after a long season. Going another four stages is certainly not going to help him if he's over-trained. I wonder what his waking HR looks like over the past month.
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This from Pogacar seems like he is cooked and over-trained and will just do more damage if he keeps going.
about 30 seconds of him talking go to 7:30 if link doesn't take you direct.
He says - he tried to eat as much as possible and nothing goes to his legs, so he was empty at the bottom of the climb and thought he would lose the podium today without the support he had around him.
ETA
This from Pogacar seems like he is cooked and over-trained and will just do more damage if he keeps going.
about 30 seconds of him talking go to 7:30 if link doesn't take you direct.
He says - he tried to eat as much as possible and nothing goes to his legs, so he was empty at the bottom of the climb and thought he would lose the podium today without the support he had around him.
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 9:14 pm
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