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re: Gay male couples face more challenges, higher costs to start a family
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:18 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:18 pm to Pettifogger
quote:We can absolutely discuss it. The problem is that "evil" is a subjective concept, and ITT we are discussing objective concepts of "the law."
We can't debate whether it's evil for gay men to unnaturally create children and bring them into an unnatural household, all via the exploitation of poor women
We'll just debate whether it's wrong that gay men have to pay out of pocket for it
If we, as a society, want to give homosexuals fewer legal rights than heterosexuals, we need only revise the 14th Amendment. I don't see a big groundswell for such an Amendment, though.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 12:21 pm
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:24 pm to AggieHank86
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If we, as a society, want to give homosexuals fewer legal rights than heterosexuals, we need only revise the 14th Amendment. I don't see a big groundswell for such an Amendment, though.
I must have missed that part of the Bill of Rights where all people have a right to a family/children
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:25 pm to AggieHank86
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We can absolutely discuss it. The problem is that "evil" is a subjective concept, and we are discussing objective concepts of "the law."
Are we? The OP is just a blurb whining about the disparity, and while it no doubt rests on some legal/contractual issues, you brought up the policy terms specifically.
But sure, in lieu of a constitutional change I'm in favor of any and all roadblocks that can practically be erected here. Including consideration of changes that would impact heterosexual couples too (like very severe limits on surrogacy).
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:26 pm to AggieHank86
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We can absolutely discuss it. The problem is that "evil" is a subjective concept, and ITT we are discussing objective concepts of "the law."
There’s no legal system without a concept of objective evil.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:28 pm to AggieHank86
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we are discussing objective concepts of "the law."
The law dictates right from wrong.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 12:28 pm to AggieHank86
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If we, as a society, want to give homosexuals fewer legal rights than heterosexuals,
Who wants to give them lesser rights?
What rights do they not have?
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