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re: Cancer...Is the pain or the mental battles the worse?
Posted on 6/19/23 at 6:47 pm to TigerinPurgatory
Posted on 6/19/23 at 6:47 pm to TigerinPurgatory
Back in Feb of this year my sister/law was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in her stomach, liver, organ sack, and her colon. They had to do an emergency colostomy, otherwise she was given 24-48 hours to live. She had the colostomy, and chose against ALL of the chemo, radiation, and other poisons that the "Doctors" tried to push her into.
She's been a nurse practitioner for 20+ years, so she's seen what those "treatments" do to the body, and mind.
She got in touch with a Dr in Florence, Al who had natural/holistic treatments, and had successfully treated a friend of hers that had the same diagnosis 10 years ago. Through diet, tons of GOOD vitamins, carrot juice, and the supplements that she got from that Dr in Florence, AL.....every full body scan she has had for the past month has showed NO sign of cancer...any cancer at all. The colostomy has been removed, and she is fully functioning and feeling great.
Cancer is a racket, and a money making machine for Dr's and big pharma. Her insurance covered ZERO of anything that cured her because they said it wasn't "approved" by their standards
Cancer doesn't have to be a death sentence, much like "covid" didn't have to be....unless you follow "their" protocol.
She's been a nurse practitioner for 20+ years, so she's seen what those "treatments" do to the body, and mind.
She got in touch with a Dr in Florence, Al who had natural/holistic treatments, and had successfully treated a friend of hers that had the same diagnosis 10 years ago. Through diet, tons of GOOD vitamins, carrot juice, and the supplements that she got from that Dr in Florence, AL.....every full body scan she has had for the past month has showed NO sign of cancer...any cancer at all. The colostomy has been removed, and she is fully functioning and feeling great.
Cancer is a racket, and a money making machine for Dr's and big pharma. Her insurance covered ZERO of anything that cured her because they said it wasn't "approved" by their standards
Cancer doesn't have to be a death sentence, much like "covid" didn't have to be....unless you follow "their" protocol.
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Posted on 6/19/23 at 7:53 pm to GWM
That's awesome!
Posted on 6/19/23 at 8:20 pm to GWM
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Cancer doesn't have to be a death sentence
Absolutely true. The media won’t really promote this…it’s too much of a plot device when a beloved TV character •gasp• gets CANCER and usually dies. Pisses me the frick off.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:26 pm to CCT
Had 32 radiation treatments for prostate cancer with no issues. But got close to the radiation therapists & out of the 3 regulars, all 3 said that they would not under go chemo. And they did this for a living, seeing 15-20 cancer patients a day, 5 days a week, for several yrs at the time. My oncologist, an older gent, told me that it boils down to what kind of life you wanted at the point a person needed to make a decision re ongoing treatment. He said most patients, because they all ask, are given an unofficial estimate life expectancy; so, he asked, do you want 1-2 yrs with a lot of pain or just be at home with family till the end. I saw a lot of miserable, pain wracked patients sitting in the waiting room.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 1:08 pm to GWM
I would LOVE for the person who down voted my post to give me an explanation as to why they did so ?
I gave a 100% factual account. I was there in the room when she was given 24-48 hrs to live without the emergency colostomy. I was there when the Dr's gave her a 6-12 month death sentence if she followed "their" recommended "treatment" plan.
Man up....lets discuss....?
I gave a 100% factual account. I was there in the room when she was given 24-48 hrs to live without the emergency colostomy. I was there when the Dr's gave her a 6-12 month death sentence if she followed "their" recommended "treatment" plan.
Man up....lets discuss....?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 2:06 pm to GWM
I watched my son fight it for a year before he passed. He had to go through two major surgeries during his battle. I can only imagine the pain he went through. Although I have to give it to his Dr’s they kept him on some heavy duty pain killers for the whole year.
As a parent, it’s a different kind of pain and hell. For me it’s a pain that never goes away
As a parent, it’s a different kind of pain and hell. For me it’s a pain that never goes away
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:02 pm to CarrolltonTiger
Carrollton Tiger, were your subsequent diagnoses in any way related to your prostate cancer? Asking as I am now 4+ years post successful radiation treatment for prostate. If not too personal, how long between the prostate treatment / subsequent diagnosis?
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 6/20/23 at 3:54 pm to TigerinPurgatory
I had a close friend with pancreatic cancer. Nausea from chemo was the hardest part for him.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 4:19 pm to MakersMark
I don't know if you were who I was referring to, and it doesn't matter. All I can do is offer my condolences to you regarding your experience.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:34 am to Keltic Tiger
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were your subsequent diagnoses in any way related to your prostate cancer? Asking as I am now 4+ years post successful radiation treatment for prostate. If not too personal, how long between the prostate treatment / subsequent diagnosis?
I don't think so. I had prostrate radiation in 2016, had about four annual prostate biopsies before the radiation so that is at least four years of watching that grow before radiation became necessary. Everything in that region has been fine since then. I started treatment for CLL in 2020 but was doing the watchful waiting while I was getting prostrate radiation. Three years after CLL chemo I had the melanoma explosion. Ithink the Leukemia was related to chemical exposure I got to slop around with Agent Orange.
I don't think the melanoma is in any way related to the prostate cancer. i think the CLL may have caused the rapid spread of melanoma .
Good luck,
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:39 am to TigerinPurgatory
Mental by a wide margin in my experience
Posted on 6/21/23 at 8:57 am to BumKnee
if I ever get the big C(and all of my buddies a few years older say it's when, not if,) it's just going to have to run its course with me c'est la vie 
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:16 am to CarrolltonTiger
Thanks, your information is very insightful & very much appreciated. My oncologist, 73 yrs old & major specialty is research, told me that the "most common area" for cancer spreading from prostate cancer is into the bones. He emphasized that nothing with cancer is common, every patient's diagnosis is different, however.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:27 am to TigerinPurgatory
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Stage 4 Colon
What I had. Single met to liver. All good 6 years now, thank the good lord
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:56 am to TigerinPurgatory
Nasopharyngeal Cancer diagnosed in JAN. Finished 26 radiation treatments and 5 chemo treatments with Cisplatin. Quarter sized tumor in space behind nose. Finished treatment to early May. Treatment was worse than Cancer, only minor symptoms before diagnosed from the Cancer. Still have a feeding tube, hospitalized for a week with Staph infection in face, down over 30 pounds, some hair loss, lost taste just starting to make a return, was on so many drugs, I don’t remember 3 weeks toward end of treatment. Just went on auto pilot, family said I was a hollow shell. Extreme exhaustion and couldn’t swallow once about half way through radiation. Threw up everything. 6 weeks after last treatment and I’m making small progress each day. It’s tough but you can do it. Like everyone says, some days are worse than others. Just keep pushing through but don’t try to over due life, rest it a big part of healing, you have got to fight the boredom and let your body heal. First PetScan I’d end of July ( takes 90 days for tissues in throat and head to heal so the scan can be accurate but the tumor is gone, need to confirm lymph nodes and no spread . You can do it !
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:13 am to Quatrepot
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The cancer doesn’t kill you, the treatment does.
The treatment is slowly killing you, but you can survive. The battle is surviving the treatment, but killing the cancer.
If it’s not treated, the cancer will eventually kill you.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 11:14 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:23 am to TigerinPurgatory
Childhood friend died over the weekend after a 2 year battle with colon cancer. One of the most awesome people you could imagine, and it has been so hard on his wife and teenaged children.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:06 pm to TigerinPurgatory
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Stage 4 Colon
Went through this in 2019 when I was 30. Stage 4 as well, had spread to the liver
As far as pain, I had none besides chemo side effects which would be awful for the first few days after treatment then get a little better as each day passed. I had treatments every 2 weeks
Had my liver surgery Jan 3, 2019 to successfully remove all cancer there. I went to the national championship to watch Burrow a week later, cause if I was gonna die I was gonna go out on top
Did radiation then colon surgery a few months later. Had to wear a colostomy bag for 3 months until they did the reversal surgery. That obviously wasn’t pleasant but like most things throughout the process, it is what it is
I’m in Houston and went to Baylor, not MD Anderson. Had incredible doctors that all worked together throughout. 10/10 experience as far as that goes
I’ve had clean scans for 2+ years now.
Keep your head up. Not saying you’ll have the same experience or outcome cause I can’t promise that, but stay positive for your loved ones. It’s way harder on them than it is on you. Please let me know if you have any questions. Easiest/quickest way to find me on here is the DAT on the more sports board
Posted on 6/21/23 at 12:10 pm to TigerinPurgatory
That depends on where it is and how soon you catch it.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 1:24 pm to Keltic Tiger
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My oncologist, 73 yrs old & major specialty is research, told me that the "most common area" for cancer spreading from prostate cancer is into the bones. He emphasized that nothing with cancer is common, every patient's diagnosis is different, however
You may know this already, so please forgive me if this is old news to you, but there is a relatively new scan known as a PSMA-PET that has only been FDA approved for about the last year or two. It apparently has much better resolution in locating the spread of prostate cancer within the body vs. conventional methods (bone scan, CT scan, MRI). If they can find where it is in the body then it can significantly impact the treatment plan.
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