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re: Star Trek Strange new Worlds Season 2

Posted on 6/23/23 at 1:10 am to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 6/23/23 at 1:10 am to
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It's easy to scream "woke" in this episode

Yes it’s becoming more and more woke.

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but it is a deeper dive on Humanity

Not really unless NAZIs are your focus of humanity. Experimenting on humans, kids, and the unborn is not something I would put on same level as needing to be accepted like with race or sex. Old Star Trek would have found a way to show being excepting or one’s biology not manipulating it.
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I would think this episode was written in the same spirit.

It was forced and dumbed down and should not be mentioned with those other Star Trek episodes. Episode was based on a winning with technicality and one that really didn’t match the law outside of lawyer saying it did or what really happened. She knew as a child she was lying. She knew as an adult she was lying. She knew as an officer she was lying including months after telling Pike. Even if seeking asylum it was from humans not from her own people. Pike didn’t grant asylum but chose to keep her secret. It would not also change lying on application part. It was legal manipulation by lawyer & judges which isn’t really good story telling or a deeper dive into humanity.

It felt completely forced and nothing like Data’s episode. I didn’t agree with that conclusion outside of science fiction context, but I enjoyed that episode a heck of a lot more than this one. It could be in part that Data was a better character and performed by a better actor making Data more well rounded and likable than Number 1 even as an android. We also got to see Data grow over longer time frame, and we saw that Data wanted to be more human than some humans. Rebecca isn’t a good enough actress. Her character gets left behind by others (including some as acting number 1 or acting captain) and is not very interesting. She was not interesting in the episode she came out as being genetically modified and made a future episode like this one easily foreseen. Her best acting is when she morphed into other characters in X-Men films Or filled out that blue skin…

On a different story telling note - What did Pike do to change the future he saw in season 1 finale with #1 convicted for these crimes and still in jail (7 years later I think)? Was he so caught up saving himself that he didn’t go get her friend to defend her? I just can’t see that even with the future version trying to save himself from his fate and seemed forced as well, but maybe I missed a better explanation.

Edit: even with episode’s faults it was still better than Discovery.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 1:14 am
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7599 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 6:59 am to
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Episode was based on a winning with technicality


We're not going to see eye to eye on this one and that's okay.

I will say that Picard outplayed the Sheliak on a legal technicality and Wesley's Crusher's Red Squad at the Academy we're going to be let of the hook with a reprimand due to a technicality until his guilt compelled him to confess.

It's not like parading Stacey Abrahams out like they did in Discovery. That is about as blatant as you can get.

Because of what's going on today in the "real world" it's easy to compare this episode to what's going on now but if this episode ran in the 60's during TOS or the 80's during TNG it would have been an instant classic.

Fewer Kilometers was correct in how Roddenberry would have liked this episode.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 7:00 am
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