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Posted on 7/19/23 at 10:33 pm to jimjackandjose
At least the millet protected them for a while and let them grow a little. The deer are having to search for them.
Worst case scenario I will maybe get a dove hunt
Worst case scenario I will maybe get a dove hunt
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:00 am to The Levee
Man you ended up doing very well with your summer plantings!
We are pretty happy with what we have.
I have one field about 2 acres of Peas and vetch the deer are living in it's really fun to watch. I sprayed weeds July 4 in it and the Peas have leafed out and a suppressing the weed growth and the Vetch is competing it looks great.
The rain helped our corn I have about 18 acres of corn that looks great and about 5 of milo that did well. I'll try and remember how to post some pictures the rain this year really helped. Our sunflowers are looking good but I think the deer have hammered them to the point were we won't get any flowers.
Glad after all the stress you had you ended up doing well with your plantings! Drilling in late April plantings vs drilling first and second weekend of May is a big difference at our place due to the early rains the late April plantings got.
What hosting site does everyone use for photos these days?
We are pretty happy with what we have.
I have one field about 2 acres of Peas and vetch the deer are living in it's really fun to watch. I sprayed weeds July 4 in it and the Peas have leafed out and a suppressing the weed growth and the Vetch is competing it looks great.
The rain helped our corn I have about 18 acres of corn that looks great and about 5 of milo that did well. I'll try and remember how to post some pictures the rain this year really helped. Our sunflowers are looking good but I think the deer have hammered them to the point were we won't get any flowers.
Glad after all the stress you had you ended up doing well with your plantings! Drilling in late April plantings vs drilling first and second weekend of May is a big difference at our place due to the early rains the late April plantings got.
What hosting site does everyone use for photos these days?
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:38 am to Da Hammer
PostImages.org is what I use
Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:54 am to Da Hammer
Thanks Hammer....the weed situation could have been better, but hey, i'm happy considering its my first summer plots
i'm going to do some fall release this year and really fight those weeds for the future.
i'm going to do some fall release this year and really fight those weeds for the future.
Posted on 7/20/23 at 12:11 pm to 76Forest
76Forest
I have always killed and burned in the fall.
Are there any detriments to this process?
I have always killed and burned in the fall.
Are there any detriments to this process?
Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:59 pm to El Tigre Grande
El Tigre, I’m not sure I understand exactly what you are asking. Also, there’s some other good experience in this thread that might know better.
But, if you mean you have killed your summer plots with herbicide in the fall, I’d guess you were doing a slightly different program than what I’m trying to do. My goal is to plant into the existing summer crop while it is living.
Herbicide seems to be necessary sometimes, especially before you get the cereal rye mat established thick enough to choke weeds. But, I’ve read that herbicide does have a couple of negative effects.
First, I understand it can make soil slightly more acidic, or makes salts in the soil. I’m not sure about that but it can change soil some. Also, I’m trying to keep a living root in the ground for the micorrhizal fungi and desirable bugs to live on. I’m trying not to let what I’ve started die out.
With that said, I’m probably going to burn with herbicide a day or two after I plant this fall.
Is that what you were asking about? Sorry if I missed the point.
But, if you mean you have killed your summer plots with herbicide in the fall, I’d guess you were doing a slightly different program than what I’m trying to do. My goal is to plant into the existing summer crop while it is living.
Herbicide seems to be necessary sometimes, especially before you get the cereal rye mat established thick enough to choke weeds. But, I’ve read that herbicide does have a couple of negative effects.
First, I understand it can make soil slightly more acidic, or makes salts in the soil. I’m not sure about that but it can change soil some. Also, I’m trying to keep a living root in the ground for the micorrhizal fungi and desirable bugs to live on. I’m trying not to let what I’ve started die out.
With that said, I’m probably going to burn with herbicide a day or two after I plant this fall.
Is that what you were asking about? Sorry if I missed the point.
This post was edited on 7/20/23 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 7/20/23 at 11:23 pm to 76Forest
quote:
going to burn with herbicide
Correct term is “using a burn down herbicide”.
Mycorrhiza Fungi can last years.
Maybe you are thinking of aggregates? They only last 21-28 days.
Posted on 7/22/23 at 10:37 am to Outdoorreb
Thanks, Reb, I’m soaking up all I can from folks who know.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 6:55 pm to The Levee
Good luck....mighty early... Pray for rain
Posted on 7/23/23 at 9:10 pm to 76Forest
Most of your sun hemp and sunflower are waste high or better. Sun hemp is getting the most pressure right now. Sorghum starting to head out. They will start eating the heads off of it closer we get to September. Some of the peas are starting to recover. We seem to have more grass this time than in the past but we have also had more rain than we have in a long time.
Posted on 7/25/23 at 10:04 am to The Levee
Thanks for sharing I’ve been hammering regenerative books and pod casts haven’t heard of this one. I think I’m officially in the wormhole….
Posted on 7/25/23 at 10:39 am to Da Hammer
This podcast came out THIS morning as I was driving to work FROM my property lol. I'm not done with it but here are some cliffs
Research started in Spring 2023 because of the explosion of Gabe Brown and GrowingDeerTV's methodology and SUCCESSES.
Deer University selected 9 target sites with multiple food plots.
The focus is entirely on FOOD PLOTS and not agriculture.
Each site (locations MS and TN with different terrains and condidtions) is equipped to test different outcomes from different methods. Methods listed below:
1. Traditional discing/Tilling / Soil Amendments / broadcasting and Herbicides (aka common agricultural practice)
2. Traditional """""""""""""""" same as above, but with a drill
3. REGEN- Pure- No herbicides or amendments. Drilling into the living grass after crimping. Crimp, wait, drill.
4. REGEN- Amended Soil- same as above but using lime/fertilizer and herbicides as needed.
Same species planted at all sites....but different for Fall and Summer food plots obviously.
They mentioned some visual results.
Regen Amended (number 4) looks the best of the REGENs and havent said anything about TRADITIONALs yet in the podcast. Will finish later.
Research started in Spring 2023 because of the explosion of Gabe Brown and GrowingDeerTV's methodology and SUCCESSES.
Deer University selected 9 target sites with multiple food plots.
The focus is entirely on FOOD PLOTS and not agriculture.
Each site (locations MS and TN with different terrains and condidtions) is equipped to test different outcomes from different methods. Methods listed below:
1. Traditional discing/Tilling / Soil Amendments / broadcasting and Herbicides (aka common agricultural practice)
2. Traditional """""""""""""""" same as above, but with a drill
3. REGEN- Pure- No herbicides or amendments. Drilling into the living grass after crimping. Crimp, wait, drill.
4. REGEN- Amended Soil- same as above but using lime/fertilizer and herbicides as needed.
Same species planted at all sites....but different for Fall and Summer food plots obviously.
They mentioned some visual results.
Regen Amended (number 4) looks the best of the REGENs and havent said anything about TRADITIONALs yet in the podcast. Will finish later.
This post was edited on 7/25/23 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/25/23 at 12:01 pm to The Levee
I can't wait to listen..
I can't bring myself to buy a crimper yet.... Hoping with a drill and cultipacker and a little chemical we can get by for a little while but get similar results
I can't bring myself to buy a crimper yet.... Hoping with a drill and cultipacker and a little chemical we can get by for a little while but get similar results
Posted on 7/25/23 at 12:16 pm to Da Hammer
I've decided to hold off on the crimper until I dont need as much herbicide anymore...may be one year...or 5...who knows?
And when I do make the acquisition, I'm going to have it made custom and spend half the money.
And when I do make the acquisition, I'm going to have it made custom and spend half the money.
Posted on 7/25/23 at 12:28 pm to The Levee
You are still ahead of me on research...
You leaning towards Green Cover seeds, Drop tine Seeds, or making your own blend?
You got an e-mail address?
You leaning towards Green Cover seeds, Drop tine Seeds, or making your own blend?
You got an e-mail address?
Posted on 7/25/23 at 1:06 pm to Da Hammer
quote:
You leaning towards Green Cover seeds, Drop tine Seeds, or making your own blend?
I’m probably going to make my own, but I think Levee was going with Green Cover. MSU went with Drop Tine. (Jason went to MSU and is giving/providing them the seeds and probably helping them out on what to do and when)
Couple weeks ago it seemed like those guys at Land And Legacy seemed to be in total disagreement with the regen theory. ( my take on what they said)
I should have a seed mix designed for this fall this week.
Posted on 7/25/23 at 1:08 pm to Da Hammer
Nm
This post was edited on 7/25/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 7/25/23 at 1:19 pm to Outdoorreb
Yeah todays podcast was a different tune.
Previously they sought out disaster stories and harped on it.
Why not do both!?
Eliminate the tilling
Previously they sought out disaster stories and harped on it.
Why not do both!?
Eliminate the tilling
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