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Why did they remove “HBO” from Max?

Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:41 am
Posted by FLTech
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:41 am
I don’t really understand this move by HBO

HBO is such a huge, reputable name in the movie/film industry

From what I have gathered, it’s still the same app but just called Max now but for a marketing standpoint, max is not very marketable because max isn’t known to have great series like

Sopranos
Entourage
Ballers
The Wire
Curb your enthusiasm

HBO documentaries

Etc

Unless, eventually they plan to relaunch an HBO app with all of their old, award winning stuff in there

It just doesn’t make sense to me why they rebranded this Max and took out the HBO part of the branding
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11525 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:42 am to
Suits.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15358 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:44 am to
Gotta make room for reality TV schlock from Discovery
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61577 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:46 am to
Because the guy in charge is from outside of HBO and it seems like he felt HBO was too premium of a brand and they want a service that everyone will sign up for. I understand why he might feel that way, but it still feels like a dumb move even in that context.
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 9:47 am
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 9:49 am to
quote:

From what I have gathered, it’s still the same app but just called Max now but for a marketing standpoint, max is not very marketable because max isn’t known to have great series like

Sopranos
Entourage
Ballers
The Wire
Curb your enthusiasm


A list of great HBO series without including GOT and Veep? Blasphemy.

To your original point, this was done because of the merger between HBO Max and Discovery+ into a single App.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Antarctica
Member since Aug 2018
9272 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:06 am to
quote:

From what I have gathered, it’s still the same app but just called Max


What’s New in Max: 10 Key Changes as HBO Max Relaunches With Discovery Content, Enhanced Features

While they're losing the "HBO" brand name, "Max" is likely appealing for at least a couple of reasons:
1. From a marketing standpoint, a one syllable brand name is better than a three syllable brand name.
2. Think of the easy marketing opportunities that are already built into the name (e.g., "MAXimum entertainment!").

I'm just happy they didn't take the lazy approach of adding a "+" to the name. I think "Max" is much better than "HBO+." The fad of adding pluses to streaming service names needs to die.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29471 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:06 am to
It switched over today

I wish they’d fricking stick with something.

Year ago it went from HBOgo to HBO max and now it’s Max

Supposedly it’s a seamless transition and I won’t have to download the new app and re-sign in this time around . We will see
Posted by Jamohn
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:24 am to
It is confusing because I associate "Max" with Skinemax and it gives me a pavlovian boner.
Posted by VaeVictus
Member since Feb 2017
1525 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:25 am to
BC much like everyone else in the entertainment industry, they have terrible ideas.

Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36103 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Why did they remove “HBO” from Max?
Snapple had a hugely successful ad campaign with "Wendy the Snapple Lady". Then Quaker Oats bought Snapple, and their ad agency immediately stopped the Wendy campaign and switched to a less successful campaign. Years later, when asked why they stopped what was a great set of commercials, the lead ad guy said, "When you take over an account, you have to change things. If you don't, and you have success with the previous agency's plan, they get the credit, not you."

HBO has new owners. They'll make changes, look for a success story anywhere that they can find in those changes, and take credit for the "improvements".
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29000 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 11:44 am to
quote:

great series like


quote:

Ballers





i enjoyed the show and watched all of it but "great" is not the adjective i'd use.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3285 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 12:11 pm to
can confirm that the new app works with the free AT&T HBOMax deal

ETA: watch history, my list, etc carried over as well as my Randy Marsh avatar
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Crisprdestroyer
Member since Sep 2017
599 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 12:11 pm to
I have been thinking the same thing. Max is Cinemax which was the inferior perverted little brother to hbo. Maybe I’m just old and the focus group doesn’t have that connection and they just know max is a word that means more
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89613 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 12:54 pm to
It's a dumb, short-sighted move that squanders (IMHO) a premium brand (HBO) in favor of some generic, "sounds good at a focus group" label, "MAX."

Really dumb.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9538 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 1:09 pm to
Branding is complicated, especially when you have a square peg / round hole situation like Discovery & Warner.

Originally we had HBO Go. Then Warner (AT&T?) decided they wanted to create a one-stop streaming platform to house all of their content. Putting Cartoon Network content inside the HBO Go app obviously would have been a little weird. So they rebranded to HBO Max - which works because it implies both “HBO + Cinemax” as well as “HBO + more.”

Now you have Discovery buying WarnerMedia and the Discovery execs feel like their Discovery+ streaming service is also successful. I don’t know how true that is but you can bet thats how they see it.

IMO it would make perfect sense to just roll Discovery+ into HBO Max because it still fits that “HBO and more” mold. But that would require the Discovery branding/marketing people to acknowledge that their brand is straight up inferior to HBO Max. So they change it to make it “their” branding idea instead.

This shite happens all the time with M&A among big conglomerates.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25753 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 1:36 pm to
I get the idea that everyone is being critical of losing an iconic brand such as HBO from the name.
It is absolutely iconic.

But... who doesn't know that it is the HBO content?
Losing a brand name from a consumable that everyone knows includes the brand is virtually no loss.

The only people complaining are people loyal to HBO...which they can still get everything and then some on the app. HBO is still there.

I call it 'picking nits'.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55839 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 1:46 pm to
I don't get it. I think there are a lot of people, myself being one, who will give just about any series a shot if it has the HBO name attached. Not so much with MAX.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
14565 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 1:46 pm to
Never understood why “max” was added. The letters HBO and this intro was all the marketing they needed

Posted by Cole Beer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4588 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 4:37 pm to
the new app isn't working on my phone, when I try to link my TV subscription for logging on
Posted by ellunchboxo
Gtown
Member since Feb 2009
18816 posts
Posted on 5/23/23 at 5:42 pm to
My free sub through AT&T is ad free. So that’s cool.

Also all of my Roku apps auto updated so that’s also cool.
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