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re: Building a 5 acre lake in SWMS

Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:59 am to
Posted by TrueTiger07
Madison, MS
Member since May 2007
2398 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:59 am to
I spent in excess of 100K on a 10 acre lake in Madison County in 2021. That includes stocking.

We did everything we wanted though, ie 18-20’ on deep side, trenches, load upon load of pea gravel, had close to 50 concrete culverts (think huge circle ones/squares) delivered for structure, mounds, creek channels, etc. We also limed the lake bottom prior to it filling up. The monthly management cost suck, too. For example, we just spent $2,500 on a load of threadfin shad and another $1,750 to kill off some algae that started growing. The feed alone for the bluegill is $150/month, plus the monthly fertilizing cost. Having said that, our bass make 2 years old June 11 and we shocked them a few weeks back and we already have bass around 4.5 pounds. Just keep these extra cost in mind if you want to do it right.

You should know going in that these projects seem to grow. It's like building a house. We ended up moving over 50,000 yards of dirt and we had to have state engineers come out to name and permit our levy due to size and water volume being impounded.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 11:13 am
Posted by Bayou Ken
Member since Sep 2018
76 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:14 am to
I had a 4 acre pond constructed on my property in Claiborne County MS about 5 years ago. Dam is about 75-100 yards long. Paid $25,000. Started with natural Resources office. Guy came out and surveyed and flagged it for free. I was able to get my tractor in there before it rained and applied 3 tons of lime. Hired southeast pond management to stock it. They don’t recommend putting white perch in a small pond. They provide pond fertilizer as well that I use March-September.
Posted by geauxskeet
Member since Oct 2009
529 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:26 am to
More bank the better, islands, peninsulas, curves are good. Farm ponds are exempt from 404, if not make sure to get it. PRobably never be an issue, but if not permitted the corps can, and has, make you tear it out.
Posted by geauxskeet
Member since Oct 2009
529 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 11:26 am to
More bank the better, islands, peninsulas, curves are good. Farm ponds are exempt from 404, if not make sure to get it. PRobably never be an issue, but if not permitted the corps can, and has, make you tear it out.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5979 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

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Email me at pdubya76ms@gmail.com
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5979 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 2:08 pm to
The levee…. I hunt with a friend north of Woodville. See my email in this thread and we can figure something out.
Posted by SmokinBurger
Bayou Self
Member since Sep 2021
246 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:23 pm to
I paid that much for a 1/2 acre pond in SE La. Along with the dozer work to spread.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 3:27 pm
Posted by SmokinBurger
Bayou Self
Member since Sep 2021
246 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:26 pm to
I have always been curious of his expenses and costs with that build. He spent a ton on that pond and didn't skimp a bit.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10763 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:28 pm to
Hopefully we can utilize the hills on my property. It’s loess soil so I don’t know how much clay
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64186 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:39 pm to
Consult contractors/engineers before you even think about consulting the government. Only if the contractor/engineer insists on contacting the government should you ever consider doing this.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64186 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:43 pm to
Also, crappie are a bad idea in this size pond. Right now, you may be thinking you'll be eating them every night but eventually you are going to get tired of it and if you don't harvest the 300+ pounds of crappie a year, they will take over the lake and you won't have much left.

Bluegill, Shellcracker, Catfish. Skip the bass unless you intend to harvest the shite out of them.

Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10763 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Consult contractors/engineers before you even think about consulting the government. Only if the contractor/engineer insists on contacting the government should you ever consider doing this.


I try my best to minimize dealing with the government
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1786 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 7:16 pm to
Read up on Waters of the U.S.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19564 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:04 am to
Presently building a 2.5 acre pond. Fortunately we have been able to take dirt from the property and the pond area is high clay content.

Only real problem is the watershed is very small so we may wind up drilling a well in order to fill it. That’s probably a minimum of 8K.

We had several thousand dollars of dirt work done on the dam with more yet to come this summer when everything dries out.

Found a small logging company to come in and take out the timber which was one of the harder things to get done.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 2:05 am
Posted by Manchac Man
Member since Dec 2014
1508 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:44 pm to
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Call David Carter if in woodville.

I have not heard that name in over 20 years. He was a whoot back in Ruston.
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at La
Member since Sep 2014
908 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 3:13 pm to
Contact the NRCS office in Adams County, they provide EQUIP cost share programs if you have a place that with erosion issues. They used to do 90/10 cost shares, i think they are less now.

Also, when you call ask for Pinecrest Construction's number. I would say they have built over half the lakes in Adams, Jefferson, and Claiborne counties. Send me a message and I can put you in touch with them.
Posted by Lugnut
Wesson
Member since Nov 2016
1441 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 6:43 pm to
I just built a 3.2 acre pond in Wesson Ms. It cost me 45k. I could have done it cheaper but I want it a certain way
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17276 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:17 pm to
Do you know the difference between a pond and a lake?

It all depends on if you are buying or selling
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5979 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:27 pm to
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I have not heard that name in over 20 years. He was a whoot back in Ruston.


He did the clearing when we built our house 10 years ago. Super nice guy and does a great job.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5285 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 9:31 pm to
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Call natural resources before you start. They will take a core sample and see if it will hold water. When we expanded ours they came out and showed me areas that would and wouldn’t hold.

Do this as your first step - USDA Natural Resources Conservation Service. LINK. As stated they can check suitability of soil to hold water, can design the pond at no cost to you, and might be some potential cost sharing opportunities (that changes from year to year) - ask. Should be able to provide some rough estimates on cost to build.
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