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re: LSU gymnast Olivia Dunne posts advertisement for AI essay writer in latest TikTok video

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:01 pm to
I thought about this a few weeks ago. All of that anti-plagiarism software is going to be useless.

Universities are going to have to figure out other ways for students to show this kind of research/work.
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:02 pm to
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I thought about this a few weeks ago. All of that anti-plagiarism software is going to be useless. Universities are going to have to figure out other ways for students to show this kind of research/work.


Make the student present the material and take questions on it..
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:11 pm to
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Universities are going to have to figure out other ways for students to show this kind of research/work.




Make the student write 250 word essays in class with pen and paper. The way I did it in ENGL 1001 and 1002.
Posted by PJinAtl
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:25 pm to
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I thought about this a few weeks ago. All of that anti-plagiarism software is going to be useless.


If two people put the same prompt into the same AI, will the output be vastly different?

I'm just wondering, will there be a way for teachers/professors to put their assignment prompts into a multitude of AI engines and get back a boilerplate that, although there may be some variations here and there, can show when that prompt was used through that AI engine?
Posted by Honkus
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:25 pm to
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All of that anti-plagiarism software


Read ab this the other day in fact. Interesting question for college professors for sure

Student Creates App to Detect Essays Written by AI


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a student at Princeton University has created a new tool to combat this form of plagiarism: an app that aims to determine whether text was written by a human or AI. Twenty-two-year-old Edward Tian developed the app, called GPTZero,


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GPTZero uses two variables to determine whether the author of a particular text is human: perplexity, or how complex the writing is, and burstiness, or how variable it is. Text that’s more complex with varied sentence length tends to be human-written, while prose that is more uniform and familiar to GPTZero tends to be written by AI.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:30 pm to
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I thought about this a few weeks ago. All of that anti-plagiarism software is going to be useless.

Universities are going to have to figure out other ways for students to show this kind of research/work.


Proctored essays.
Posted by StringedInstruments
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 2:30 pm to
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Universities are going to have to figure out other ways for students to show this kind of research/work.


I’m currently working on revamping some of my essay assignments to include more reflexivity and personal connections.

I don’t think it will matter much though. Until we become a society that values education for its intrinsic purposes, students will always look for the easiest access to the transaction.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted by FCP
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 3:30 pm to
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niversities are going to have to figure out other ways for students to show this kind of research/work.
I've already had a couple of my community college students try to submit AI text for parts of an assignment. It's pretty easy for a human to detect at this point. I think at least. Put another way, I'm batting 1.000 when accusing students--they both confessed.

We have battled paper-writing mills for 2 decades, and so far the same tools/strategies seem to work against AI. That said, it's disappointing that Ms. Dunne is willing to shill for something that's so obviously in contradiction to core academic principles.
Posted by Artificial Intel
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 4:20 pm to
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Universities are going to have to figure out other ways for students to show this kind of research/work.


They should embrace being “an experience” rather than posing as intellectual authorities. STEM studies should be forced to split from universities and create their own entity recognized by higher education. Everything else is a tiered barrier of entry for the experience. Lowest tiers being your liberal arts, higher tiers being law school, business etc.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 4:21 pm
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:35 pm to
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All of that anti-plagiarism software is going to be useless.


There is AI that runs your AI written essay through anti-plagiarism software and rewrites it to make it pass the check.

Maybe schools will just get rid of dumbass useless essays.
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:50 pm to
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I thought about this a few weeks ago. All of that anti-plagiarism software is going to be useless.

Universities are going to have to figure out other ways for students to show this kind of research/work.


It's just like a calculator. Eventually they'll stop trying to police it.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/27/23 at 10:04 pm to
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All of that anti-plagiarism software is going to be useless.



So will video and audio surveillance. AI can already imitate speech if it has a sample to train on, and AI-generated video tech is improving every day.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:21 am to
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Universities are going to have to figure out other ways for students to show this kind of research/work.


They actually figured this out thousands years ago when they invented the pen and paper. Kids better start working on their penmanship.
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 11:21 am to
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Universities are going to have to figure out other ways for students to show this kind of research/work.



No, Universities need to realize this is the future and how information will be gathered going forward.

I am in that age group that although the internet existed you could not use it to cite and had to Dewey fricking Decimal everything despite owning a PC.

Can anyone honestly say hanging on to that nonsense has helped anyone in any way?

Schools should be leading the tech pack not be dragged kicking and screaming behind.
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