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re: The Times reporting the CIA destroyed Nordstream

Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:26 am to
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:26 am to
Hopefully Putin nukes us soon
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:28 am to
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:30 am to
If true, it’s an act of war.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:31 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:32 am to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:36 am to
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You’re surprised? Dude tows the line like no other these days

SFP has morphed into John Bolton's twin
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:37 am to
While I think this is certainly possible, even likely...

I would not trust Hersh's reporting on this. He constantly claims anonymous sources for some pretty dubious stuff.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:41 am to
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I didn't read the article but I'm assuming we had cooperation from Norway. Big question was how involved France and especially Germany were. Does the article get into that?



That's quite a shift from your previous position that Russia did this to itself.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:42 am to
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It's a deep sea open water dive. DEVGRU is a DA unit. This isn't in their wheelhouse.


Getting them on target without causing a a ruckus is certainly in their wheelhouse. We are talking semantics on who does the dirty work.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:51 am to
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I wouldn't put it past them but I also think they wouldn't do it without Biden's approval and he seems too chickenshit to approve something like that.



You assume Brandon was even aware of this. I could see the CIA doing whatever the hell they want in this leadership vacuum.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:00 pm to
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You assume Brandon was even aware of this. I could see the CIA doing whatever the hell they want in this leadership vacuum.

Biden has been a beltway yes man for 50 years. Even if he didn't have dementia, he'd sign off on whatever they told him to.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:01 pm to
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Getting them on target without causing a a ruckus is certainly in their wheelhouse. We are talking semantics on who does the dirty work.


You’re exactly right.

I won’t vouch for everything Hersh posts from his anonymous sources.

But our government/CIA/DOD etc certainly utilizes contractors for certain things in order to provide plausible deniability.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:02 pm to
Worst kept secret
Posted by Hurricane Mike
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:05 pm to
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That is an act of war if there ever was one.


I’ve said this since Day 1

One country keeps committing acts of war, one country is fighting that off. We deserve to have our arse bombed for continually fricking with other countries.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:11 pm to
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That is an act of war if there ever was one.


If true, every country in the world should be at our throats.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:23 pm to
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I would not trust Hersh's reporting on this. He constantly claims anonymous sources for some pretty dubious stuff.


Yeah, Hersh had “anonymous sources” that Assad wasn’t using chemical weapons during their civil war, which I think has been thoroughly debunked. There might be reasons why he reports stories through his personal blog.
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 12:28 pm
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:24 pm to
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You assume Brandon was even aware of this. I could see the CIA doing whatever the hell they want in this leadership vacuum.


Our intelligence apparatus has a lot of black budget money, there’s a lot they do independently that political leadership has no knowledge of.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:29 pm to
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SFP has morphed into John Bolton's twin


He's "Status quo flo pro"

Never met a popular opinion he couldn't bandwagon upon. Even riding Bolton's Jock on this one.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
134989 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:31 pm to
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He's "Status quo flo pro"

Never met a popular opinion he couldn't bandwagon upon. Even riding Bolton's Jock on this one.

The really entertaining part is how he attempts to show he's consistent on all his views
Posted by Tmcgin
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 12:35 pm to
Seymour Hersch
A real oldie —- this board hated him when he wrote for NYT and New Yorker
Things change
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