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re: Netflix Japan uses AI in anime (artists not happy)

Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1732 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 2:06 pm to
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It's theft. Pure and simple.


The origin work still exists in the space it was placed. The work wasn't duplicated and sold. It's not pure or simple as a one to one comparison.

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It's not just another "next step" in technology. It relies on the appropriation of the work of others.


All artwork is derivative. What artists are arguing is for the end of cultural development. A stagnant stalemate where somehow their appropriated thing is valuable but past things are not and future things are impossible to create.

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it causes your income to decrease and mine to increase


So is the industrial cycle, my friend. You've taken a personal luxury time waste and commoditized it, and now you're upset that engineers have industrialized it through the use of machinery? Your potter's wheel still has value, just fewer willing to pay your production cost.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
31010 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 3:06 pm to
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You've taken a personal luxury time waste and commoditized it, and now you're upset that engineers have industrialized it through the use of machinery?


So basically what you're saying is that you do not believe that the creation of art is a worthy pursuit, and your bias in this regard is the principal reason for your opinion.

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All artwork is derivative. What artists are arguing is for the end of cultural development.


Well that's absolutely false. You don't seem to understand what "cultural development" even is.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36124 posts
Posted on 2/8/23 at 5:06 pm to
All of these analogies in defense of AI appropriating art, but not one of the examples have the "next step" relying on the previous creators to continue forward. It's not a case of a better mousetrap. It's a program that will require the leech to continuously feed off of the work of others or it dies.
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