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re: Netflix Japan uses AI in anime (artists not happy)
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:45 pm to skrayper
Posted on 2/8/23 at 1:45 pm to skrayper
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So you're comparing taking other's people work, running it through an application, and generating a similar piece in a few moments to a person observing various art forms, spending years honing their craft, and generating something where you MIGHT see the influence of other artists?
Is this a "how dare you develop a skill I don't have, now I want stuff that makes you irrelevant" mentality?
No, this is a "your skills have been made an obsolete time sink due to an advance in technology" mentality. You see, when guns became more effective, archers who had honed their skills over years became obsolete, as the skill set needed for success changed. Archers still exist, but in a niche market now, just as the skilled hand artist will become. The new tech opens new opportunities. Instead of the greatest technical skill in a niche being the most valuable, now the person with the most creative ideals when it comes to prompts will have a higher market value. The "arts" aren't dead because of this technological change, they are transformed.
Think about it this way, the youtuber artist bitching about it uses photos taken by another person as a reference. Yet, he/she probably doesn't see her transmutation of the form he's/she's copying as theft, because they're making changes to it and recreating it in another medium. The youtuber cannot see the irony of their own position and you, a blind consumer, do not see it either.
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 7:54 pm to blackinthesaddle
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No, this is a "your skills have been made an obsolete time sink due to an advance in technology" mentality.
Except if people don’t keep making art for the AI to steal it stops creating new art. It just keeps remixing the same styles.
Humans can adapt new styles. AI needs to see a style to recreate it.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 8:01 pm to blackinthesaddle
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No, this is a "your skills have been made an obsolete time sink due to an advance in technology" mentality. You see, when guns became more effective, archers who had honed their skills over years became obsolete, as the skill set needed for success changed. Archers still exist, but in a niche market now, just as the skilled hand artist will become. The new tech opens new opportunities. Instead of the greatest technical skill in a niche being the most valuable, now the person with the most creative ideals when it comes to prompts will have a higher market value. The "arts" aren't dead because of this technological change, they are transformed. Think about it this way, the youtuber artist bitching about it uses photos taken by another person as a reference. Yet, he/she probably doesn't see her transmutation of the form he's/she's copying as theft, because they're making changes to it and recreating it in another medium. The youtuber cannot see the irony of their own position and you, a blind consumer, do not see it either.
Wildly more articulate than I could have put it, but this is my exact sentiment. Well said, sir.
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