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re: Is there a vaccine mandate for healthcare workers?
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:43 am to LSU alum wannabe
Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:43 am to LSU alum wannabe
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This has been going on. Covid has been the biggest event in my career by far. Squeaky wheel does not get the grease with healthcare. It gets replaced. There are plenty of wheels. You go along or you go somewhere else.
As a provider in whatever capacity you just have to do what you truly feel is best for your patient. Do your best to leave politics out of it.
The worm turned on healthcare. And as in so many other instances, the people and not the policy are what gets punished. Shitting on PCPs and Nurses being the worst I have ever seen. The notion that we were complicit in anything is foolish.
I will just scale this back to myself. As an RN I do not have a research level research lab in my garage that I enjoy as a hobby. We rely on research and governing bodies. The CDC, WHO, NIH, and AMA and others all give us or gave us the data points we guide our practices on. The NIH being my personal favorite. Their web content and site are dry and to the point. “Just the facts”.
These entities failed us. The main failure was in their arrogance. “Follow the science” became a joke. My belief is they handled it poorly from the start. Instead of telling people the truth. “This is all we have. This is a new situation. This is a pandemic on a scale not seen since 1918. We have more tools to fight it but no reason to say we can keep it from acting like other pandemics.” I believe a fear of spooking the herd and speaking in false absolutes, spooked the herd even more.
The notion of doing “your own research” is unrealistic. Again I do not have a research lab in my garage. No one does. And wading into the weeds of fringe websites and researchers with axes to grind was always problematic before. Many were loons. Not so much anymore.
The CDC and WHO gave them all the credibility they never thought they would get.
This all became a clown world. Imagine pilots going somewhere than the FAA/NTSB or other industries going with other bodies than OSHA for their rules and safety plans. Are these entities without their problems? No. But would you want to fly under the rule of a brand new governing body for air travel? Or work in a refinery or platform with “Bobs Safety Company” in charge.
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 11:32 am to blackinthesaddle
Retired RN here.I don’t have a research lab in my garage either.
I refused the vaccine as did several other old nurses,took ivermectin when I got Covid,from feed store no less.
It didn’t take a whole lot of research.
1)Dr Robert Malone advocated against mass vaccination “We don’t know long term side effects”
2)Congress was exempt from federal mandates
3)Illegal immigrants weren’t mandated,rather it was “offered”.
4) From working in ICU and being educated on masks I knew the fallacies of mask mandates.
5) The way they were bashing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine as dangerous I knew they were lying.
Only thing I can speculate is you haven’t been a nurse long enough.When I started I was gullible as hell and believed everything I was told.
The years go by and things we did and drugs we gave turned out to be useless,and sometimes harmful.Consequenty,you learn to be skeptical of anything new.
I knew Pfizer’s history with Bextra and I was suspicious.
You learn that many Drs.are honorable and do the right thing.Many others are strictly in it for the money and see patients as flesh and blood ATM’s,so do hospitals.That has gotten much worse last 15 years.
You also learn that majority of PCP’s have a deficit of knowledge and no critical thinking skills.It’s worse now since so many are employed by hospitals and private equity firms.
Ex.-My mother had severe COPD from alpha1 antitrypsin deficiency.Her pulmonologist retired and she was referred to a PCP.Apparenty never heard of alph1 anti trypsin deficiency nor did she read records from pulmonologist.She basically called my mother a liar for denying she ever smoked(she didn’t).
I have probably 100 other examples of mis-diagnosis and stupid shite PCPs did.
I also believed the CDC,FDA,NIH were honorable.Also believed AHA,American Cancer Society,etc are legit.Read enough and you find that they have all been corrupted by corporations.Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics are one of the worst,They control education and licensing of dietitians and recieve majority of their funding from food industry. AHA also recieves lots of financing from food industry,they walk a tightrope making recommendations so as not to offend their corporate sponsors.
It’s kind of sad,thinking about where I started as a new grad,all starry eyed,and where I ended up-a cynical ,jaded old curmudgeon.
I don’t regret my career,I can honestly say I gave 100% at work everyday.Big bonus is I know which Drs.to go to and which to avoid.
I refused the vaccine as did several other old nurses,took ivermectin when I got Covid,from feed store no less.
It didn’t take a whole lot of research.
1)Dr Robert Malone advocated against mass vaccination “We don’t know long term side effects”
2)Congress was exempt from federal mandates
3)Illegal immigrants weren’t mandated,rather it was “offered”.
4) From working in ICU and being educated on masks I knew the fallacies of mask mandates.
5) The way they were bashing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine as dangerous I knew they were lying.
Only thing I can speculate is you haven’t been a nurse long enough.When I started I was gullible as hell and believed everything I was told.
The years go by and things we did and drugs we gave turned out to be useless,and sometimes harmful.Consequenty,you learn to be skeptical of anything new.
I knew Pfizer’s history with Bextra and I was suspicious.
You learn that many Drs.are honorable and do the right thing.Many others are strictly in it for the money and see patients as flesh and blood ATM’s,so do hospitals.That has gotten much worse last 15 years.
You also learn that majority of PCP’s have a deficit of knowledge and no critical thinking skills.It’s worse now since so many are employed by hospitals and private equity firms.
Ex.-My mother had severe COPD from alpha1 antitrypsin deficiency.Her pulmonologist retired and she was referred to a PCP.Apparenty never heard of alph1 anti trypsin deficiency nor did she read records from pulmonologist.She basically called my mother a liar for denying she ever smoked(she didn’t).
I have probably 100 other examples of mis-diagnosis and stupid shite PCPs did.
I also believed the CDC,FDA,NIH were honorable.Also believed AHA,American Cancer Society,etc are legit.Read enough and you find that they have all been corrupted by corporations.Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics are one of the worst,They control education and licensing of dietitians and recieve majority of their funding from food industry. AHA also recieves lots of financing from food industry,they walk a tightrope making recommendations so as not to offend their corporate sponsors.
It’s kind of sad,thinking about where I started as a new grad,all starry eyed,and where I ended up-a cynical ,jaded old curmudgeon.
I don’t regret my career,I can honestly say I gave 100% at work everyday.Big bonus is I know which Drs.to go to and which to avoid.
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