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Bible and sickness
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:27 pm
Does anyone here truly believe the Bible? The world has us going to medicine for every little thing, but the Bible says we can pray our sickness out. Does anyone believe this?
James 5:14-15
King James Version
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
James 5:14-15
King James Version
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:30 pm to Archangel
100% believe in it. Last year before Good Friday, my church asked us to submit prayer requests for their Good Friday service and walk. Dealing with a failing heart and only slight improvement over the previous year, I asked them to pray for my heart’s healing on behalf of my kids.
I shite you not, I went to my upcoming cardiologist appointment two weeks after Easter and was told the echo showed a big improvement, all the way up to the bottom end of normal thresholds. I legit went from almost needing a heart transplant to “normal” function. Sure, could’ve been a coincidence but I have faith and believe it was more.
I shite you not, I went to my upcoming cardiologist appointment two weeks after Easter and was told the echo showed a big improvement, all the way up to the bottom end of normal thresholds. I legit went from almost needing a heart transplant to “normal” function. Sure, could’ve been a coincidence but I have faith and believe it was more.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:33 pm to Archangel
I've noticed that people who go to doctors a lot, they stay sick all the time. That's why I stay away from doctors and feel pretty good.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:36 pm to Archangel
For the love of god, can you stop with all the religious posts? JFC.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:45 pm to Archangel
If you had the faith of a mustard seed…
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:45 pm to Archangel
I believe the Bible whole-heartedly. I also believe that we must be careful with our interpretation of it.
The passage you are referencing was given within the context of the miraculous, apostolic gifts. Those gifts have ceased.
Now, we can pray for the sick, and God may be merciful to heal the sick person miraculously, but more often than not, our prayers should be both for the person's health as well as the work of the doctors and nurses that attend the sick, as God usually works through means.
The passage you are referencing was given within the context of the miraculous, apostolic gifts. Those gifts have ceased.
Now, we can pray for the sick, and God may be merciful to heal the sick person miraculously, but more often than not, our prayers should be both for the person's health as well as the work of the doctors and nurses that attend the sick, as God usually works through means.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:59 pm to Archangel
Apollo can both cause and cure illness.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:09 pm to Archangel
When Jesus was asked about healing via belief...He said "let it be according to your faith". I think there are studies and documentation of stats which reflect the healing power of faith.
Re the Bible (Basic Concepts, notwithstanding all the questionable translations, metaphors, meanings, et al), I believe that the basic Idea that the 'physical' Universe is indeed a derivative of a Spiritual, Self-Aware 'Entity'. I.e., God; with all the baggage therein.
As Science becomes more knowledgeable, the basic essence of this 'perceived' Universe becomes more abstract, exponentially complex and incomprehensible by the day.
I also believe that the Biblical, Christian narrative of Jesus Christ as the Original Mold, Liaison, Guide and 'Savior' for our flawed (via our limitation) Humanity, is both logical, philosophically sound, and common sensical for those who have experienced Love to a great degree. Especially those who are loving and responsible Parents.
I also believe that ultimately, one becomes the product of one's EDUCATED CHOICE. God gave us the gift of our 'Self', it is up to us - as it should be - what our ultimate value and 'Self' will be. IMO, in life, we are perusing the 'buffet' of choice, in order to attain said education, in order to make that educated choice. In this scenario, 'perception becomes reality', and that is how different individuals can exist in totally different perceptive realities. Perception, being based on belief.
To each their own. Though, as those who choose the opposite of Love (extreme Narcissism/Self Worship) they will not rest easy if able to observe those who have chosen Love and enjoy the rewards therein. Enter, Satan, and the power of Evil. As long as there are 'Individuals', there will be 'Evil'. Envy rules. Cain v Abel.
And, I too have experience 'miraculous' events. All questionable by skeptics of course. Albeit, the Bible says that miracles are not for unbelievers, but believers.
God speed.![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconcheers.gif)
Re the Bible (Basic Concepts, notwithstanding all the questionable translations, metaphors, meanings, et al), I believe that the basic Idea that the 'physical' Universe is indeed a derivative of a Spiritual, Self-Aware 'Entity'. I.e., God; with all the baggage therein.
As Science becomes more knowledgeable, the basic essence of this 'perceived' Universe becomes more abstract, exponentially complex and incomprehensible by the day.
I also believe that the Biblical, Christian narrative of Jesus Christ as the Original Mold, Liaison, Guide and 'Savior' for our flawed (via our limitation) Humanity, is both logical, philosophically sound, and common sensical for those who have experienced Love to a great degree. Especially those who are loving and responsible Parents.
I also believe that ultimately, one becomes the product of one's EDUCATED CHOICE. God gave us the gift of our 'Self', it is up to us - as it should be - what our ultimate value and 'Self' will be. IMO, in life, we are perusing the 'buffet' of choice, in order to attain said education, in order to make that educated choice. In this scenario, 'perception becomes reality', and that is how different individuals can exist in totally different perceptive realities. Perception, being based on belief.
To each their own. Though, as those who choose the opposite of Love (extreme Narcissism/Self Worship) they will not rest easy if able to observe those who have chosen Love and enjoy the rewards therein. Enter, Satan, and the power of Evil. As long as there are 'Individuals', there will be 'Evil'. Envy rules. Cain v Abel.
And, I too have experience 'miraculous' events. All questionable by skeptics of course. Albeit, the Bible says that miracles are not for unbelievers, but believers.
God speed.
![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconcheers.gif)
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:13 pm to Archangel
You think God can’t work through the biological processes he created?
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:15 pm to Archangel
The Bible is a collection of books written by different authors to different audiences. Pulling one or two verses and making a definitive statement from almost always leads in error.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:21 pm to Archangel
In those two verses are they talking about moral sickness or physical sickness?
There are doctors mentioned in the Old Testament.
There are doctors mentioned in the Old Testament.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:22 pm to Archangel
I look at it like Ronnie James Dio used to say "God is a maker the devil is a taker"
GOD gave man the intelligence and ability to learn medicine to help us.
GOD gave man the intelligence and ability to learn medicine to help us.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:38 pm to Archangel
I believe it’s possible, but I also believe all our days are numbered. In the vast majority of cases when you number is up, it’s up.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 7:29 pm to Archangel
quote:
Does anyone here truly believe the Bible? The world has us going to medicine for every little thing, but the Bible says we can pray our sickness out. Does anyone believe this?
James 5:14-15
King James Version
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
Miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit such as "healing" don't exist today.
They haven't existed since the apostles died, because they could only be received after the laying on of the apostles hands.
Spend some time in the Book of Acts.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:10 pm to Archangel
In a couple of years you will have the opportunity to tell God he was wrong
Posted on 2/2/23 at 8:29 pm to Archangel
quote:
The world has us going to medicine for every little thing, but the Bible says we can pray our sickness out. Does anyone believe this?
I don't know. My Mom who was a devout Christian, gave birth to eight children. 1927-1945. When we were ill she prayed. She read a chapter from the Bible almost every night and prayed for blessings every night prior to bed.
We were all born at home with a midwife. None of us ever saw an MD except, my older brother was bitten by a mule when he was fifteen. Stitches and tetanus shot. My younger sister broke her arm when she was about twelve and had it set by a MD.
I had my first MD checkup at age 18, prior to college. He said, "You are healthy enough to live to 150. I'm over half way there.
I've been blessed.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:40 pm to Archangel
God also gave man the knowledge to produce medications and doctors the skills to perform surgeries.
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:36 pm to Archangel
100%. I was diagnosed with subcutaneous lymphoma in 2005. A church full of people prayed for me and a local pastor told me that I had a miracle from the Lord and not to let the devil steal it. No cancer was found at my next doctor visit.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 12:37 am to Archangel
All disease starts with our thoughts. Think about the word. DIS-EASE. Meaning pur body and minds are not at ease and that's what causes sickness. We all have the power to heal ourselves. We are all part of God and have the ability. It's just been suppressed through endless vaccines, pharmaceuticals, fluoride, aluminum, etc. Our pineal glands are calcified and that is one of the main reasons we have lost our connection.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 3:07 am to Archangel
Yes it's called a blessing and no not everyone has the authority
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