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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:56 pm to
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Why didn’t Casen mention this in the original statement with police. Seems convenient to say that now when Madi can’t dispute it.


We don’t know if he did or didn’t. We just know the parts the detective used for the warrant.

It is strange that Haley is quoting someone else’s client.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:57 pm to
Maybe. I’d have to see how Louisiana has handled the exception in criminal trials.

You may be right. And the defense would have to be damned careful not to open the door. But my gut says it does not come in unless he testifies.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 2:59 pm to
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You just never know which crusty old guy is a protective dad and which one is bitter about those young people these days, with their Reggie's and their Doc Martens or whatever.


Get off of my lawn!
Posted by ThuperThumpin
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:02 pm to
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he affidavit alludes to it in an odd way.


I dont recall ....odd how? Since we are going there, as it was mentioned, anal sex is messy even under the "right" circumstances. I wonder if they were able to determine that the anal sex took place within hours of her death.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:05 pm to
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I wonder if they were able to determine that the anal sex took place within hours of her death.

Or if the DNA matches the 4 suspects.
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:05 pm to
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I dont recall ....odd how?


The exact statement is "During the autopsy, the pathologist reported that the victim had injuries consistent with previous sexual assault anally."
Posted by ThuperThumpin
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:09 pm to
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he pathologist reported that the victim had injuries consistent with previous sexual assault anally."


"Previous" I guess that could be seen as an odd adjective to insert and interpreted as the injury had healed or was in the process of healing... IE she had anal sex before the night in question?
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 3:10 pm
Posted by LSUBogeyMan
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:09 pm to
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You hear all the time about guys being shitfaced and leaving a bar with some ugly girl. I’d imagine 9 times out of 10, the guy was way drunker than the girl. If a guy reports that as rape, do you think anybody would believe him?


No, bc the guy would never want more than his roommate know he slept with that hog.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:12 pm to
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Previous" I guess that could be seen as an odd adjective to insert and interpreted as the injury had healed or was in the process of healing... IE she had anal sex before the night in question?


Yeah. The word “assault” undercuts that view though.

I think it’s just an odd word choice. Or maybe it’s the way doctors describe it. I dunno.
Posted by pussywillows
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:14 pm to
if the pathologist's statement referred to an act that was unrelated to the current charges, it would have been incredibly stupid to include it in the warrant/affidavit...
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:15 pm to
I personally think it's just oddly worded with "previous" referencing the assault before death from that night.
Posted by LoneStarRanger
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:15 pm to
Real shame for the girl. Very sad.

That being said:

quote:

"Investigators say Brooks had a blood-alcohol level of .319g%, nearly four times the legal limit." If true, that gal would definitely not had many (if any) of her faculties, and consent is moot.


I don’t buy this BS.

In vino veritas.

I can be charged for drunk driving and killing someone….despite not having, according to you and the law, “all my faculties”.

Yet, a girl has sex, while being drunk, and it’s rape.

Can’t have it both ways.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:16 pm to
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Why didn’t Casen mention this in the original statement with police. Seems convenient to say that now when Madi can’t dispute it.
He may have.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:17 pm to
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don’t buy this BS.

In vino veritas.

I can be charged for drunk driving and killing someone….despite not having, according to you and the law, “all my faculties”.

Yet, a girl has sex, while being drunk, and it’s rape.

Can’t have it both ways.


And here we fricking go again. Like you seriously don't see the glaring hole in your comparison?
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:17 pm to
"Previous" needs a referent. I take it prior to being struck by the vehicle.
Posted by jdd48
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:17 pm to
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I don’t buy this BS.

In vino veritas.

I can be charged for drunk driving and killing someone….despite not having, according to you and the law, “all my faculties”.


Agreed - poorly thought out take about faculties at that BAC based on my own personal experience. It doesn't change the fact that .319 is an extremely high BAC though under any circumstances. You may in fact have some of your faculties, but you're not likely going to remember a thing the next day.

This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 3:22 pm
Posted by pussywillows
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:19 pm to
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I take it prior to being struck by the vehicle.


that was my understanding as well...
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:21 pm to
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Why didn’t Casen mention this in the original statement with police. Seems convenient to say that now when Madi can’t dispute it.


The interview lasted about an hour, I believe. The affidavit contains salient information for an arrest warrant. Much more was discussed in the interview that wasn't included in the affidavit, presumably in the interest of brevity and conciseness.

Madi wasn't talking after 2:50a on the 15th. She was already brain dead or removed from life support.
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:21 pm to
Well, one couldn't find her way to an address, apparently didn't know she didn't have her phone while informing the others she'd call an Uber in freezing cold temps, and then wandered in front of a vehicle.

How much evidence of intoxication did the others show?
Posted by HodsonTiger13
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 3:24 pm to
It was oddly worded but since it said 'assault' I thought it meant from that night.


Hadn't seen this story (Law and Crime website) but same info we have other than the full affidavit is posted:

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