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re: Saying whether you should have a gas stove or not exemplifies everything wrong in politics
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:31 am to Revelator
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:31 am to Revelator
This is a fight lost long ago. And there was no fight, even those who supposedly embraced “small govt” cheered as the federal govt dictated what you could eat, drink, smoke, consume, grow, etc.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:36 am to AggieDub14
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:40 am to AggieDub14
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Has the federal government actually tried to make any rules about gas stoves? Or is this just the latest faux news boogie man that people are up in arms about? Keep the people pissed off over little things and they will ignore the big ones.
Coming directly from the CSPC.
LINK
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Commissioner Rich Trumka Jr.
@TrumkaCPSC
Thanks for your interest!
To be clear, CPSC isn't coming for anyone's gas stoves. Regulations apply to new products.
For Americans who CHOOSE to switch from gas to electric, there is support available - Congress passed the Inflation Reduction Act which includes a $840 rebate.
In response to:
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Gary Palmer
@USRepGaryPalmer
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Jan 9
Over 40 million American households use gas stoves. This type of power should never have been given to unelected bureaucrats and it is time for it to end. twitter.com/trumkacpsc/sta…
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Commissioner Rich Trumka Jr.
@TrumkaCPSC
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Jan 9
My guiding duty is protecting consumer health and safety. Gas stoves can emit dangerous level of toxic chemicals - even when not in use - and @USCPSC will consider all approaches to regulation. Thank you @AriNatter and @business for excellent journalism. twitter.com/AriNatter/stat…
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Ari Natter
@AriNatter
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Jan 9
The US Consumer Product Safety Commission says a ban on gas stoves is on the table amid rising concern about harmful indoor air pollutants emitted by the appliances.
https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-09/us-safety-agency-to-consider-ban-on-gas-stoves-amid-health-fears?srnd=green&sref=Vi7wu7Hv
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:43 am to GeauxTigerTM
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The US Consumer Product Safety Commission says a ban on gas stoves is on the table amid rising concern about harmful indoor air pollutants emitted by the appliances.
Who’s concern is rising?
So two or three people say something about gas stoves and a ban is recommended?
Maybe 2 or 3 people should talk about the hazards of illegal aliens!
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:45 am to dgnx6
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It’s pretty crazy to see them in unison spouting the same bullshite.
Are you not used to this by now? I know I am.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:50 am to Revelator
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Who’s concern is rising?
So two or three people say something about gas stoves and a ban is recommended?
Nah, this is all planned. Banning gas stoves has been in the works for a bit, so they filter this through a WEF Think Tank out of Colorado (look it up) and then drop the info into the press as if it's some new breakthrough info. This ignites the press into talking about it, which allows agencies awaiting the release to say what they did. The "study" simply gives them a bit of cover.
And then The Left hear the Press say what to do, and like obedient little NPC's they accept the new download and run to tell the first person they see about the harmful effects of gas stoves.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:00 pm to Revelator
So the headline literally says no plan yet. So they haven't done anything. You lied by saying yes.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:09 pm to AggieDub14
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So the headline literally says no plan yet. So they haven't done anything. You lied by saying yes.
Go back and read the wording of what you asked, then come back.
I’ll help you.
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Has the federal government actually tried to make any rules about gas stoves?
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:12 pm to AggieDub14
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So the headline literally says no plan yet. So they haven't done anything.
Is that how this works? A member of an agency declares the possibility of action, (the banning of future purchases of gas stoves in the US) and the public should sit quietly and await the rule to be passed before expressing any concerns?
Maybe it would be better if we just said, "Govern me harder, Daddy Government!"
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:20 pm to Sus-Scrofa
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Can’t buy a working gas can
This site may help a little. Swerved into the site after I spilled gas on my hands and was pissed. I used them to replace the crappy spouts on my cans.
Gas spouts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:43 pm to Revelator
How long has gas stoves been around? Everyone is doing just fine
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:58 pm to Revelator
frick it.
I'm just gonna start claiming I make my tea in the morning by setting the nearest patch of woods on fire using a combination of gasoline, diesel, and permanganate + brake fluid.
I'm just gonna start claiming I make my tea in the morning by setting the nearest patch of woods on fire using a combination of gasoline, diesel, and permanganate + brake fluid.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:03 pm to squid_hunt
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All of these decisions are about control.
That's a radical libertarian and populist interpretation of what's going on here.
I visualise the zeal for eliminating gas appliances and internal combustion engines through the purview of the Preamble to the Constitution: promote the general welfare clause, Which includes consumer health and an effort to rein in an out-of-control climate. If it's proven science that childhood asthma rates are increasing because of gas stoves, shouldn't that be a herald to curtail their production and sale. Likewise, eliminating the ICE should become the Holy Grail of consumer product advocates across the land. How many more Cat 4-5 hurricanes and bomb cyclones do we need to endure to change the consumer psyche cross America?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:03 pm to Revelator
I don’t like gas stoves but I also understand that people who are serious about cooking swear by them.
It’s also a lot fricking cheaper to use a gas burner than electric induction as making heat using electricity is horribly inefficient while burning gas is a very simple action.
Same stupidity behind pushing electric cars over ICE vehicles. Higher cost for lower performance.
It’s also a lot fricking cheaper to use a gas burner than electric induction as making heat using electricity is horribly inefficient while burning gas is a very simple action.
Same stupidity behind pushing electric cars over ICE vehicles. Higher cost for lower performance.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:21 pm to Revelator
It's gonna get worse. When I first started posting on poli boards there were some who mocked the argument of 'slippery slope.'
They aren't mocking it anymore. No matter how many stupid things the govt regulates, they will find more that are even dumber than the ones in the present.
It's what they do. And the Founders knew it and tried to regulate it with the Constitution.
They aren't mocking it anymore. No matter how many stupid things the govt regulates, they will find more that are even dumber than the ones in the present.
It's what they do. And the Founders knew it and tried to regulate it with the Constitution.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:28 pm to tarzana
quote:you are a gaddamned nutcase
effort to rein in an out-of-control climate
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:35 pm to tarzana
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promote the general welfare
There is a huge difference in trying to promote the general welfare and trying to mandate the general welfare.
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If it's proven science that childhood asthma rates are increasing because of gas stoves, shouldn't that be a herald to curtail their production and sale.
This is something that should be left to consumer and manufacturers and not government
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:37 pm to Revelator
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When the federal government was established, it had minimalist objectives to keep society civil. They didn’t try and encroach into every aspect of private life, and left the bigger matters for the states to decide.
Rs and Ds are equally guilty in this regards. Every politician has a political solution to every perceived problem. If all you have is a hammer, everything becomes a nail.
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