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re: Saying whether you should have a gas stove or not exemplifies everything wrong in politics

Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:31 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22546 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:31 am to
This is a fight lost long ago. And there was no fight, even those who supposedly embraced “small govt” cheered as the federal govt dictated what you could eat, drink, smoke, consume, grow, etc.

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58194 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:36 am to
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Has the federal government actually tried to make any rules about gas stoves?


Yes


NBC News

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:40 am to
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Has the federal government actually tried to make any rules about gas stoves? Or is this just the latest faux news boogie man that people are up in arms about? Keep the people pissed off over little things and they will ignore the big ones.


Coming directly from the CSPC.

LINK

quote:

Commissioner Rich Trumka Jr.
@TrumkaCPSC
Thanks for your interest!

To be clear, CPSC isn't coming for anyone's gas stoves. Regulations apply to new products.

For Americans who CHOOSE to switch from gas to electric, there is support available - Congress passed the Inflation Reduction Act which includes a $840 rebate.


In response to:

quote:

Gary Palmer
@USRepGaryPalmer
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Jan 9
Over 40 million American households use gas stoves. This type of power should never have been given to unelected bureaucrats and it is time for it to end. twitter.com/trumkacpsc/sta…


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Commissioner Rich Trumka Jr.
@TrumkaCPSC
·
Jan 9
My guiding duty is protecting consumer health and safety. Gas stoves can emit dangerous level of toxic chemicals - even when not in use - and @USCPSC will consider all approaches to regulation. Thank you @AriNatter and @business for excellent journalism. twitter.com/AriNatter/stat…


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Ari Natter
@AriNatter
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Jan 9
The US Consumer Product Safety Commission says a ban on gas stoves is on the table amid rising concern about harmful indoor air pollutants emitted by the appliances.

https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-09/us-safety-agency-to-consider-ban-on-gas-stoves-amid-health-fears?srnd=green&sref=Vi7wu7Hv
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Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58194 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:43 am to
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The US Consumer Product Safety Commission says a ban on gas stoves is on the table amid rising concern about harmful indoor air pollutants emitted by the appliances.


Who’s concern is rising?
So two or three people say something about gas stoves and a ban is recommended?
Maybe 2 or 3 people should talk about the hazards of illegal aliens!
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3110 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:45 am to
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It’s pretty crazy to see them in unison spouting the same bullshite.


Are you not used to this by now? I know I am.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:50 am to
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Who’s concern is rising?
So two or three people say something about gas stoves and a ban is recommended?


Nah, this is all planned. Banning gas stoves has been in the works for a bit, so they filter this through a WEF Think Tank out of Colorado (look it up) and then drop the info into the press as if it's some new breakthrough info. This ignites the press into talking about it, which allows agencies awaiting the release to say what they did. The "study" simply gives them a bit of cover.

And then The Left hear the Press say what to do, and like obedient little NPC's they accept the new download and run to tell the first person they see about the harmful effects of gas stoves.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:00 pm to
So the headline literally says no plan yet. So they haven't done anything. You lied by saying yes.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58194 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:09 pm to
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So the headline literally says no plan yet. So they haven't done anything. You lied by saying yes.



Go back and read the wording of what you asked, then come back.
I’ll help you.


quote:

Has the federal government actually tried to make any rules about gas stoves?
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:12 pm to
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So the headline literally says no plan yet. So they haven't done anything.


Is that how this works? A member of an agency declares the possibility of action, (the banning of future purchases of gas stoves in the US) and the public should sit quietly and await the rule to be passed before expressing any concerns?

Maybe it would be better if we just said, "Govern me harder, Daddy Government!"
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6961 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:20 pm to
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Can’t buy a working gas can

This site may help a little. Swerved into the site after I spilled gas on my hands and was pissed. I used them to replace the crappy spouts on my cans.
Gas spouts
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10775 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6567 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17066 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:43 pm to
How long has gas stoves been around? Everyone is doing just fine
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13037 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:58 pm to
frick it.

I'm just gonna start claiming I make my tea in the morning by setting the nearest patch of woods on fire using a combination of gasoline, diesel, and permanganate + brake fluid.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26363 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:03 pm to
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All of these decisions are about control.

That's a radical libertarian and populist interpretation of what's going on here.

I visualise the zeal for eliminating gas appliances and internal combustion engines through the purview of the Preamble to the Constitution: promote the general welfare clause, Which includes consumer health and an effort to rein in an out-of-control climate. If it's proven science that childhood asthma rates are increasing because of gas stoves, shouldn't that be a herald to curtail their production and sale. Likewise, eliminating the ICE should become the Holy Grail of consumer product advocates across the land. How many more Cat 4-5 hurricanes and bomb cyclones do we need to endure to change the consumer psyche cross America?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96453 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:03 pm to
I don’t like gas stoves but I also understand that people who are serious about cooking swear by them.

It’s also a lot fricking cheaper to use a gas burner than electric induction as making heat using electricity is horribly inefficient while burning gas is a very simple action.


Same stupidity behind pushing electric cars over ICE vehicles. Higher cost for lower performance.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112619 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:21 pm to
It's gonna get worse. When I first started posting on poli boards there were some who mocked the argument of 'slippery slope.'
They aren't mocking it anymore. No matter how many stupid things the govt regulates, they will find more that are even dumber than the ones in the present.
It's what they do. And the Founders knew it and tried to regulate it with the Constitution.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:28 pm to
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effort to rein in an out-of-control climate
you are a gaddamned nutcase
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58194 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:35 pm to
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promote the general welfare


There is a huge difference in trying to promote the general welfare and trying to mandate the general welfare.


quote:

If it's proven science that childhood asthma rates are increasing because of gas stoves, shouldn't that be a herald to curtail their production and sale.



This is something that should be left to consumer and manufacturers and not government
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41204 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:37 pm to
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When the federal government was established, it had minimalist objectives to keep society civil. They didn’t try and encroach into every aspect of private life, and left the bigger matters for the states to decide.


Rs and Ds are equally guilty in this regards. Every politician has a political solution to every perceived problem. If all you have is a hammer, everything becomes a nail.
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