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re: Trade season has started, BREAKING: DURANT TO SUNS, frick

Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by New City Champ
Member since Jul 2018
457 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:17 pm to
In theory, if Jaylen Brown really is on the block, would you do a deal based on Pels trading BI for Brown? I know Pels talked to Cs about him in 2019 as part of an AD or Jrue trade. But Brown had been benched that year and was out of favor with Ainge. Now we’d probably have to sweeten the deal some.

I was, and am, firmly against trading Brandon for Durant, due mainly to the age difference. But a deal for Brown would be tempting as he’s more durable and may be a better fit next to Zion as a second star….
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
1901 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:21 pm to
I beg to differ, have you watched Herb this year? offensively, you'd like to see him connect more beyond the arc, however defensively he has been a top 3 perimeter defender in the league.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71808 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:22 pm to
He's probably on the block only for Durant. But if they offered him up and swung and missed again I wouldn't be stunned if he wanted out in the offseason.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

Get Malik Beasley

I still like the idea of getting Beasley and Vanderbilt.

Herb/Naji to Denver
Bones, Graham, Hayes 1st to Jazz
Beasley, Vanderbilt to Pels

Also opens a roster spot and close to 4 million under the tax (we still have our MLE available) to try to lure someone here on the buyout market
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6678 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

In theory, if Jaylen Brown really is on the block, would you do a deal based on Pels trading BI for Brown?


yes simply because of durability. He's also a better defender.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6678 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:25 pm to
Kennard fits this team perfectly. I'd prefer him to Beasley. Him or Alec Burks is who I want.

No OG, no Collins.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11977 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Am I thinking any return on Willy is worth less than what he can/cannot provide during the season?

I feel like keeping him, feeding him minutes (obviously offensively he's decent enough) to reduce the wear on JV is better than a random 2nd round pick.


I agree. He has a nice contract and can play spot minutes as needed. I would not trade him unless it was part of a bigger deal to get an upgrade elsewhere. I certainly would not do it for a 2nd rounder.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61584 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:50 pm to
Billy's main complaint was he wasn't playing, which he is now. He also probably didn't think it was right that Jaxson was above him in the rotation.

Unless they swap Jaxson for a big Willie would play, the team definitely should keep Billy. If you end up turning JV into a more defensively skewed center this summer, having Billy as a 6th man version of JV will be nice to have around.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Official: Kyrie Irving to the Dallas Mavericks. Spencer Dinwiddie, Dorian Finney-Smith, 2029 first-round pick and two second-round picks in 2027 and 2029 to the Brooklyn Nets.

Nets couldn’t find a third team
Posted by Pelicanus
Member since Jun 2019
651 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:07 pm to
Pelicans should empty the warchest for Durant.

If Brooklyn wants to reset then offer 5 first round picks and Temple, Hayes, Billy, Lewis, Daniels, and Graham.


Picks can be Lakers swap 2023
Pels pick in 2025
Pels pick in 2027
Both Milwaukee picks



Go win it all.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

Pelicans should empty the warchest for Durant.

I think Brooklyn has made it pretty clear they’re trying to do everything possible not to trade him.

That’s not even beginning to factor in that a 6 for 1 trade never happens in season in the NBA because teams don't have the roster spots.

Then add in that your trade kills all of our depth and puts us 5 million into the tax with no way to add other players.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Pelicanus
Member since Jun 2019
651 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:37 pm to
You have a lineup of

C - JV / Nance
PF - Zion / Murphy
SF - Durant / Marshall
SG - Ingram / Herb
PG - McCullom / Jose


What depth do you need?

Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3186 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

Kennard fits this team perfectly. I'd prefer him to Beasley. Him or Alec Burks is who I want. No OG, no Collins


100% idk what they want but go get kennard
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61584 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:05 pm to
One thing I’ve seen is they want to upgrade Wall. They probably want draft assets to make that happen and probably don’t want salary like Graham back.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96453 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 6:48 pm to
They can still make it a non-simultaneous trade. Only rules are they can’t combine other salaries from their team unless it is for deals that would work separately.

Ex - DFS and Dinwiddie for about $30m in salary works. DFS and Seth Curry for about $16m in salary doesn’t work unless DFS can be traded completely independent of Curry.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

What depth do you need?

You need a Billy who can help you get a win on a B2B

You need guys to practice against. You need young players to develop.

Look at the NBA and every team recently thats given up everything they have to land a star player. It doesn’t work out for them.

Lakers and AD
Wolves and Rudy
Clippers and PG
Nets and Harden
Rockets and Westbrook

This is not even getting into the fact that there’s only one ball, how you plan on giving 20+ shots a game to 4 guys?

The only way a KD trade works out for us is by sending BI and a pick or two at most.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 7:25 pm
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

Pelicans should empty the warchest for Durant.


Would Durant want to come here? It’s the first question for any Durant move.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52679 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:39 pm to
Seems like there’s some smoke about the Magic sending Suggs to Toronto
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Seems like there’s some smoke about the Magic sending Suggs to Toronto

Interesting, I wonder what else Toronto would have to send to Orlando for that to work.
Posted by PELsu
Member since Oct 2021
975 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 7:47 pm to
Magic want FVV
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