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Sight and Sound 2022 Greatest Films of All Time
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 3:53 pm
Once a decade, Sight and Sound magazine polls critics around the world and release their top 100 greatest films of all time. It’s considered to be the gold standard of top movie lists by many. They also do a separate poll for directors and release it once a decade as well. The new list just came out. Just wondering if any of you checked it out yet and what your thoughts are. For me, I liked the 2012 list better. In this new list, my all time #1 film (Vertigo) got bumped from #1 to #2 and replaced by a film I’ve never heard of, Jeanne Dielman 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles. I’m not going to say it shouldn’t be #1 because I’ve never seen it, but it’s a curious choice. Anyway, if you haven’t seen the list, here’s a link:
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Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:12 pm to Gavin Elster
I've only seen 9 of those from beginning to end.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:23 pm to Gavin Elster
In the Top 10 I've seen 4. Never even heard of #1.
So I had to read up on it...why #1?
And there we go...
So I had to read up on it...why #1?
quote:
On the side of content, the film charts the breakdown of a bourgeois Belgian housewife, mother and part-time prostitute over the course of three days; on the side of form, it rigorously records her domestic routine in extended time and from a fixed camera position. In a film that, agonisingly, depicts women’s oppression, Akerman transforms cinema, itself so often an instrument of women’s oppression, into a liberating force.
And there we go...
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:35 pm to Adajax
Just went back and looked at the list again. I’ve seen 51 of them. Here’s the top 10 for those who don’t want to bother with the link:
1. Jeanne Dielman 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975)
2. Vertigo (1958)
3. Citizen Kane (1941)
4. Tokyo Story (1941)
5. In the Mood For Love (2000)
6. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
7. Beau travail (1998)
8. Mulholland Dr. (2001)
9. Man with a Movie Camera (1929)
10. Singin' in the Rain (1951)
For years Citizen Kane was #1 on all these lists. Interestingly, it is starting to slide a bit. It moved from 1 to 2 in 2012 and has dropped again in 2022.
1. Jeanne Dielman 23, quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles (1975)
2. Vertigo (1958)
3. Citizen Kane (1941)
4. Tokyo Story (1941)
5. In the Mood For Love (2000)
6. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
7. Beau travail (1998)
8. Mulholland Dr. (2001)
9. Man with a Movie Camera (1929)
10. Singin' in the Rain (1951)
For years Citizen Kane was #1 on all these lists. Interestingly, it is starting to slide a bit. It moved from 1 to 2 in 2012 and has dropped again in 2022.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:37 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
It's a film whose reputation has been growing steadily this century, since more and more people have had access to watching it. It's a seminal film from the French New wave. It's narratively innovative. It's also a very academic top film on a list of that shows some pretty academic tastes, made by a very international voting base.
But sure, make it part of the same bullshite you guys always do.
You could also get on criterion channel and watch it.
But sure, make it part of the same bullshite you guys always do.
You could also get on criterion channel and watch it.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:37 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I think you’re probably right about why it’s #1. It just seems very odd that a film virtually unheard of (as far as being lauded this highly) would suddenly shoot to the top. And we’re not talking about a new film, this was made in the 70’s.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:42 pm to Jay Are
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It's a film whose reputation has been growing steadily this century, since more and more people have had access to watching it. It's a seminal film from the French New wave. It's narratively innovative. It's also a very academic top film on a list of that shows some pretty academic tastes, made by a very international voting base.
Good points and thanks for the insight since most of us haven’t seen it. As I said originally, I can only speculate since I’ve never seen it. Do you think it deserves being #1? Would love to get your opinion.
I’m a Criterion subscriber too so I will definitely check it out.
By the way, I love Stalker. It’s a masterpiece, one of my all time favorites!
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:42 pm to Gavin Elster
Mulholland Dr. isn't even the best Lynch movie
Posted on 12/2/22 at 6:45 pm to jatilen
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Mulholland Dr. isn't even the best Lynch movie
Wow, I would disagree with that. Which one of his do you think is his best?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 7:22 pm to Gavin Elster
Battleship Potemkin and The General are too low in the rankings. Surprised Get Out made the list.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 7:28 pm to Gavin Elster
#1 debuted at #35 in the last poll.
Now it's #1, rocketing past every movie including Citizen Kane which was #1 for 5 decades and Vertigo which was in the Top 5 for 4 decades...But it's 2022...and they've had 10 years to do a 180...and get with the times, I guess.
Now it's #1, rocketing past every movie including Citizen Kane which was #1 for 5 decades and Vertigo which was in the Top 5 for 4 decades...But it's 2022...and they've had 10 years to do a 180...and get with the times, I guess.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:53 pm to Jay Are
Jeanne Dielman is neither French nor contemporaneous with the French New Wave. Chantal Akerman is Belgian.
The choice is surprising, but logical. The most prominent film from Akerman, whose star rose throughout the decade, with her suicide in 2015 inviting reappraisals of her oeuvre; the expanded voting poll and cultural climate were obviously going to catapult women directors into the spotlight, but she’s a major talent and a deserving beneficiary. Crucially, for the sake of consensus, Akerman isn’t going to split votes across her filmography, but she has other great works. If I were introducing someone from this board I would begin with her Conrad adaptation, Almayer’s Folly. I think her follow-ups to Dielman, Rendezvous with Anna and Toute une Nuit, are my favorites.
Without getting bogged down in the underrated/overrated game, some general observations. A dearth of studio era; no Hawks, Lubitsch, or Sternberg, each likely splitting votes amongst their masterworks (but three Wilder’s?!). The individual lists, next week, will tell the tale. Along with Dielman, the appearance of Mulholland Dr, Beau Travail, and In the Mood for Love in the top 10, and the continued persistence of Ozu, Vertov, and Donen, with the slippage of Coppola, Ford, and Kurosawa, suggests a sort of (pop) formalism winning the decade.
The choice is surprising, but logical. The most prominent film from Akerman, whose star rose throughout the decade, with her suicide in 2015 inviting reappraisals of her oeuvre; the expanded voting poll and cultural climate were obviously going to catapult women directors into the spotlight, but she’s a major talent and a deserving beneficiary. Crucially, for the sake of consensus, Akerman isn’t going to split votes across her filmography, but she has other great works. If I were introducing someone from this board I would begin with her Conrad adaptation, Almayer’s Folly. I think her follow-ups to Dielman, Rendezvous with Anna and Toute une Nuit, are my favorites.
Without getting bogged down in the underrated/overrated game, some general observations. A dearth of studio era; no Hawks, Lubitsch, or Sternberg, each likely splitting votes amongst their masterworks (but three Wilder’s?!). The individual lists, next week, will tell the tale. Along with Dielman, the appearance of Mulholland Dr, Beau Travail, and In the Mood for Love in the top 10, and the continued persistence of Ozu, Vertov, and Donen, with the slippage of Coppola, Ford, and Kurosawa, suggests a sort of (pop) formalism winning the decade.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 8:58 pm to Gavin Elster
I thought Get Out was absurd, then i get to Mullholland Drive, as the 8th greatest movie of all time.
Like out of hundreds of thousands of movies, that shite stain is the 8th best.
Like out of hundreds of thousands of movies, that shite stain is the 8th best.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:07 pm to smokeswithwolves
Great insight. Thanks for the information about Akerman. I’m looking forward to checking out her work. That’s one thing I love about this type of poll, combining a wide range of critics from across the world. There are going to be surprises on this list and films many have never even heard of. But if you keep an open mind and check some of them out, you’re going to be exposed to some amazing films. Take Au hasard Balthazar for example. I had never heard of it until I saw it on the 2012 list. I decided to give it a chance and watch it and was very touched by it. It’s become one of my favorite films as a result. Without the Sight and Sound poll, I would have probably never heard of it.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:10 pm to Gavin Elster
No Casablanca in top 10. Trash that list.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:25 pm to cypresstiger
No Godfathers, Shawshank, el Lawrence, etc.
This list is Idiocracy at best. An art house listing of movies to fall asleep during.
This list is Idiocracy at best. An art house listing of movies to fall asleep during.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:33 pm to j1897
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Mullholland Drive, as the 8th greatest movie of all time.
That was the first one that stood out besides #1.
This is the weirdest poll they've ever had.
And it shows you how critics have become mirrors of media and societal causes.
Didn't they use to separate the Critics Poll and the Director's Poll?
Director's love The Searchers...Critics have to be offended by it to keep their job.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:46 pm to Adajax
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I've only seen 9 of those from beginning to end.
15 and I consider myself an aficionado. Not that we should only consider American film but I’m lost on a lot of those.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:47 pm to MDB
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Godfathers
Godfather 1 was on the list. #12
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:31 pm to Gavin Elster
Where is the avengers ranked
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