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Up To 40 Million Firearms Could Be Banned Overnight
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:40 am
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:40 am
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/40-million-firearms-could-be-banned-overnight-due-new-atf-brace-rules
Up To 40 Million Firearms Could Be Banned Overnight Due To New ATF Brace Rules
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is set to release its final rule on Braced firearms later this month.
In Analyzing the proposed rule, which was released June 2021, it appears that ATF has intentionally designed its Factoring Criteria for Rifled Barrel Weapons with Accessories Commonly Referred to as "Stabilizing Braces" to effect a complete ban of every pistol-braced firearm currently on the market.
Masquerading as a helpful rulemaking "to assist" gun owners and the firearms industry in complying with the law, in reality the proposed rule is designed with the obvious and specific intent to largely outlaw the use of stabilizing braces on firearms, threatening millions of current owners with imprisonment and putting a large segment of the gun industry out of business entirely.
To accomplish this goal, the proposed rule creates "Worksheet 4999," which contains three sections of analysis, each more restrictive than the last, designed to ensure that virtually no stabilizing brace is eligible for use on a non-rifle firearm, and thereafter ensuring that most firearms do not qualify to even use an allowed stabilizing brace.
Even if a firearm passes the checks listed in "Worksheet 4999" ATF reserves unto itself the unbridled discretion to override the results of the worksheet at any time and for any reason, creating a system where no person or company could possibly rely on anything the agency says.
ATF in their proposed rulemaking claims that the number of Stabilizing braces in circulation is around 7-9 million. Whereas the Congressional Research Service estimates that the actual number of braces in circulation is anywhere between 10 – 40 million.
If this proposed rule becomes law, millions of gun owners could find themselves in possession of illegal, unregistered short barreled rifles or shotguns overnight.
ATF attempted once before to effectively ban pistol braces in 2020, during the Trump administration. Because of the massive grassroots response to the rule change, ATF abandoned their attempt and withdrew the rulemaking. But now that a new anti-gun regime has taken control of the White House, the ATF feels empowered to revive its war on pistol braces and essentially ban an extremely popular gun accessory
Up To 40 Million Firearms Could Be Banned Overnight Due To New ATF Brace Rules
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is set to release its final rule on Braced firearms later this month.
In Analyzing the proposed rule, which was released June 2021, it appears that ATF has intentionally designed its Factoring Criteria for Rifled Barrel Weapons with Accessories Commonly Referred to as "Stabilizing Braces" to effect a complete ban of every pistol-braced firearm currently on the market.
Masquerading as a helpful rulemaking "to assist" gun owners and the firearms industry in complying with the law, in reality the proposed rule is designed with the obvious and specific intent to largely outlaw the use of stabilizing braces on firearms, threatening millions of current owners with imprisonment and putting a large segment of the gun industry out of business entirely.
To accomplish this goal, the proposed rule creates "Worksheet 4999," which contains three sections of analysis, each more restrictive than the last, designed to ensure that virtually no stabilizing brace is eligible for use on a non-rifle firearm, and thereafter ensuring that most firearms do not qualify to even use an allowed stabilizing brace.
Even if a firearm passes the checks listed in "Worksheet 4999" ATF reserves unto itself the unbridled discretion to override the results of the worksheet at any time and for any reason, creating a system where no person or company could possibly rely on anything the agency says.
ATF in their proposed rulemaking claims that the number of Stabilizing braces in circulation is around 7-9 million. Whereas the Congressional Research Service estimates that the actual number of braces in circulation is anywhere between 10 – 40 million.
If this proposed rule becomes law, millions of gun owners could find themselves in possession of illegal, unregistered short barreled rifles or shotguns overnight.
ATF attempted once before to effectively ban pistol braces in 2020, during the Trump administration. Because of the massive grassroots response to the rule change, ATF abandoned their attempt and withdrew the rulemaking. But now that a new anti-gun regime has taken control of the White House, the ATF feels empowered to revive its war on pistol braces and essentially ban an extremely popular gun accessory
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:43 am to Jack Carter
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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives is set to release its final rule on Braced firearms later this month.
This is what they are trying to ban?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:44 am to Jack Carter
Damn, well I recently lost my .22 mini gun in an unfortunate boating accident.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:44 am to Jack Carter
I seriously wish nothing but pain and suffering on each and every ATF agent and their immediate families.
Natural pain and suffering, of course. Like, they stub their toe every single day or some shite like that. So… not a threat or anything.
Natural pain and suffering, of course. Like, they stub their toe every single day or some shite like that. So… not a threat or anything.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:44 am to Jack Carter
Look at what Trudeau/Castro is doing in Canada.
Stricter gun ownership laws in Canada per Trudeau cabinet
It's obvious that these globalists are continuously applying more pressure for control/confiscation of privately owned firearms at a global scale which means that they are uniformly and enacting these policies from a centralized origin...
Stricter gun ownership laws in Canada per Trudeau cabinet
It's obvious that these globalists are continuously applying more pressure for control/confiscation of privately owned firearms at a global scale which means that they are uniformly and enacting these policies from a centralized origin...
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:44 am to Jack Carter
Shall not be infringed.
Btw.. does the Supreme Court EPA ruling make this one invalid?
Btw.. does the Supreme Court EPA ruling make this one invalid?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:45 am to Jack Carter
The anti-gun groups have been getting their asses handed to them lately from what I have seen.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:47 am to Jack Carter
Im sure the south side of Chicago will be cleaned up overnight because of this "ban". Because everyone knows criminals will always follow the law
Posted on 12/2/22 at 9:50 am to Jack Carter
The rule will not be constitutional under the current case law.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:14 am to Jack Carter
This is such horseshite that a three letter agency can whimsically decide how they want to infringe on a clear cut constitutional amendment.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:16 am to Jack Carter
ATF is not a law making/passing entity and should be 100% defunded, removed and the govt have class action lawsuits opened up for their abuse.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:42 am to Jack Carter
I will not comply - your move squirt
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:43 am to Jack Carter
You do realize that an attempt to pass or enforce a gun law gives the citizen the right to kill the person enforcing the law right?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:03 am to Jack Carter
Baby steps.
Slippery slope.
Hell yes we’ll take your guns!!
Slippery slope.
Hell yes we’ll take your guns!!
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:05 am to Jack Carter
Someone needs to introduce the ATF to the 2nd Amendment. "Shall not be infringed" is about as concrete as it gets.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:06 am to Jack Carter
Meanwhile, illegally owned handguns are taking out multitudes every single day without comment.
It's not hard to see why the federal government goes after the specific things they do.
It's not hard to see why the federal government goes after the specific things they do.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:10 am to Jack Carter
Under what act of congress was the ATF delegated this authority? Such a ruling should immediately be challenged under the same logic as West Virginia vs EPA.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:34 am to Jack Carter
Attorney who tracks suits
Follow him. He tracks and reports out suits across the country.
I believe the suit you are referring to is this one LINK
Follow him. He tracks and reports out suits across the country.
I believe the suit you are referring to is this one LINK
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 11:37 am
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:01 pm to Jack Carter
They planning on buying them? At a minimum, it constitutes a taking requiring just compensation under the 5th Amendment.
If this is a legal act (and the EPA decision calls that into doubt), it is an ex post facto law to the extent it applies to already purchased and owned firearms.
If this is a legal act (and the EPA decision calls that into doubt), it is an ex post facto law to the extent it applies to already purchased and owned firearms.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 12:37 pm to Jack Carter
Bet this gets shut down in SCOTUS
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