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re: End of the year CFP Hypothetical per the committee tonight. Chick said LSU means Chaos

Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:36 am to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31089 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:36 am to
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This hype about UGA is overblown


So you are saying the team that dominated the team that blew us out at home isn't really that good? And if we beat them, as a 1-loss SEC team, undefeated in the regular season, they will not get in over a 1-loss PAC12 team that they beat the brakes off of?

That is some vintage rantard logic right there.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67232 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:55 am to
Big 10 Champ is your 1 seed
TCU is your 2
Oregon is the 3
Tennessee is probably 4, but maybe Georgia. A one loss Clemson or UNC as ACC champ is also possible.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3063 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:12 am to
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period. Conf champ games mean nothing to the playoff committee and that precedent has already been set. People pretending they’ll change their criteria for us are delusional like you said.


Only 4 of 32 CFP participants have been non-conference champions and 3 of those 4 have been included in addition to the conference champ. Only once has a non-champ been included while the champion has not. I’m really not sure how you can conclude from that that conference championships don’t matter to the committee. The criteria specifically give preference to champions, so they would actually be changing the criteria to exclude LSU, not the other way around. The SEC champ has made the CFP every time and made the BCS title game every year from 2006-2013, including two loss LSU in 2007.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:16 am to
Posted by Endorphins
Member since Jun 2022
1185 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:40 am to
No. It would be Oregon over UGA. They won their conference. You don't snub a conference winner for a non conference winner.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5070 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:51 am to
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This hype about UGA is overblown...they only played two ranked teams.


They are #1 and manhandled two of the top five teams behind them.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3063 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:03 pm to
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No. It would be Oregon over UGA. They won their conference. You don't snub a conference winner for a non conference winner.


I’m not sure if this is a troll or not, but there is most assuredly a difference between Georgia getting in ahead of a team that just beat them in the SECCG vs getting in ahead of a team they beat 49-10.
Posted by BigBigger
Member since Sep 2014
88 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:05 pm to
Wrong
Posted by Menatiger
Mena, Arkanss
Member since Sep 2018
1143 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:23 pm to
Oregon can have top 10 wins by beating USC/UCLA which ever may win out for a championship. If USC beats ND, and USC and beats Oregon in the Ship they have a decent resume’ with one loss.
Posted by Lsudx256
DFW
Member since Mar 2016
2911 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:55 pm to
No way Georgia doesn’t get in with only a loss to LSU in SEC Championship.
Posted by Endorphins
Member since Jun 2022
1185 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 4:51 pm to
It's not. Oregon wins their conference, I don't see them not getting in. They just have to win out. Honestly, logically, I don't even see why Mich/OSU the loser of that conf championship can't get in either. You can't have it both ways, only 4 slots. Conference champions should always take precedent.
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3729 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 6:01 pm to
I don’t think we make it in the given scenario. I think we need Illinois, Texas, and Utah to help us out.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 7:00 pm to
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No way if LSU beat #7 Ole Miss, #6 Alabama, and #1 Georgia they don't get at least a 4 seed.
you would think.

But Tenn having one less loss AND a convincing win head to head at death valley ?

I don't think it's cut and dry at all, and really just comes down to how the committee sees it all.
Posted by Tigaux6661
Member since Aug 2022
388 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 8:52 pm to
Im not saying they are not good...but they are not consistently good. They also almost lost to Mizzou...the Kent State game was touch and go. 1 loss at the end of a season is a bigger blow than an improved team that lost early and a one loss team that has better wins
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3063 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:17 pm to
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It's not. Oregon wins their conference, I don't see them not getting in. They just have to win out. Honestly, logically, I don't even see why Mich/OSU the loser of that conf championship can't get in either. You can't have it both ways, only 4 slots. Conference champions should always take precedent.


I actually agree that with only 4 slots the default should be conference champions unless there is a dramatic difference. The CFP guidelines say the non-champ has to be clearly better, but the application of that standard has been hit or miss. In this case, the Georgia-Oregon head-to-head seems clear enough evidence, but I wouldn’t be upset if they deferred to the conference champions.
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