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Stop blaming the Offensive Line. Its the Quarterback
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:27 pm
Do you think Bamas line forgot how to play football last night? They gave up as many sacks in that 1 game than all year with Bryce Young. The QB fumbled twice and threw a pick, not because the OLine couldnt hold the blocks, or isnt talented enough
in 2011 LSU had an undefeated season thru 9 games, and then Miles switched QBs. By the end of the year, the same OLine wasnt suddenly the reason the team couldnt move the ball. It was the new QB, who had passing games of 88, 67, 53, and 30 yards. The play calls were changed because of who was passing the ball
In 2018 and 2019 you had essentially the same OLine at LSU. Yet in 2018 we were an above average SEC team, and 2019 might have been the greatest team in history. What changed was an offensive scheme that matched the passing talents of its QB. The QB made the line much better, not the other way around
If you have a QB that is gun shy, incapable of reading defenses pre or post snaps, cannot throw his WRs open, looks for run lanes first rather than progressions, and cant run a scheme that asks for him to throw quickly, then even the OLine for the #1 team in the nation wont help. As we saw last night with Bama
in 2011 LSU had an undefeated season thru 9 games, and then Miles switched QBs. By the end of the year, the same OLine wasnt suddenly the reason the team couldnt move the ball. It was the new QB, who had passing games of 88, 67, 53, and 30 yards. The play calls were changed because of who was passing the ball
In 2018 and 2019 you had essentially the same OLine at LSU. Yet in 2018 we were an above average SEC team, and 2019 might have been the greatest team in history. What changed was an offensive scheme that matched the passing talents of its QB. The QB made the line much better, not the other way around
If you have a QB that is gun shy, incapable of reading defenses pre or post snaps, cannot throw his WRs open, looks for run lanes first rather than progressions, and cant run a scheme that asks for him to throw quickly, then even the OLine for the #1 team in the nation wont help. As we saw last night with Bama
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:28 pm to RobbBobb
Scheming around our weaknesses would help
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:28 pm to RobbBobb
It can be both numb nuts. We lost our best guard and lt. Daniels is slow to make a decision and he got bum rushed multiple times due to line play.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:30 pm to RobbBobb
Why not both?
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:30 pm to RobbBobb
Our OL isn't good and has no depth. Losing another talented player was another negative. We badly lost the battle of the trenches yesterday.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:32 pm to RobbBobb
LSU has no running game at all. That doesn’t help the struggling QB. The run game has no creativity
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:32 pm to RobbBobb
He sits back there after 6 seconds has gone by all season.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:34 pm to RobbBobb
Our Oline can't run block to save its life
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:36 pm to RobbBobb
So you didn’t watch the same game as the rest of us yesterday???? The Oline was horrible. Sorry that is a fact. But Daniels is not the answer.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:44 pm to RobbBobb
This is one of the dumbest posts I’ve seen in a while.
1. There were several sacks where the OL offered 0 resistance. No QB could have avoided them.
2. Blaming JJ solely for the 2011 line getting worked by Alabama is dumb. They just weren’t good enough to play Alabama. That’s why Lee looked like shite in the first match up: he was getting pressured and he is terrible under pressure.
3. Neithe this OL Nor the 2011 OL was
Moving the ball in the rush game. They were getting beat constantly. That’s on them.
1. There were several sacks where the OL offered 0 resistance. No QB could have avoided them.
2. Blaming JJ solely for the 2011 line getting worked by Alabama is dumb. They just weren’t good enough to play Alabama. That’s why Lee looked like shite in the first match up: he was getting pressured and he is terrible under pressure.
3. Neithe this OL Nor the 2011 OL was
Moving the ball in the rush game. They were getting beat constantly. That’s on them.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:48 pm to RobbBobb
I agree with the OP for the most part.
Our QB does absolutely nothing pre-snap to adjust blocking. The reason our 2019 OL went from being our weakest unit in the preseason to winning the national OL award was Burrow. He put them (and by extension the whole offense) in positions to succeed starting with pre-snap reads, motions, audibles.
Not asking for Burrow, but Daniels apparently isn't capable of any of it.
Our QB does absolutely nothing pre-snap to adjust blocking. The reason our 2019 OL went from being our weakest unit in the preseason to winning the national OL award was Burrow. He put them (and by extension the whole offense) in positions to succeed starting with pre-snap reads, motions, audibles.
Not asking for Burrow, but Daniels apparently isn't capable of any of it.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:50 pm to RobbBobb
It’s both. Why is that hard to say?
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:51 pm to RobbBobb
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It was the new QB, who had passing games of 88, 67, 53, and 30 yards. The play calls were changed because of who was passing the ball
That offense was (minus JJ) was much more talented than our current O yet idiots here still compare JJ and JD. JD is far from great but he’s accomplishing more than JJ with less help.
quote:
In 2018 and 2019 you had essentially the same OLine at LSU…. What changed was an offensive scheme that matched the passing talents of its QB. The QB made the line much better, not the other way around
And experience. The o-line and qb each had a year to grow. It’s amazing what that will do.
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then even the OLine for the #1 team in the nation wont help. As we saw last night with Bama
I’m still laughing at the thread from last night that was praising bama for scheming properly for a running qb.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:51 pm to RobbBobb
Even when Daniels has time to throw he can not find one of the three open receivers. Give Daniels the 2019 O-line and he is still struggling.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:58 pm to RobbBobb
2011 - Lee led the SEC until that AL game then got benched for good.
Miles never even gave us a chance in that rematch. Still say he should have put Lee in a deep shotgun and aired it out after the 3rd series.
Miles never even gave us a chance in that rematch. Still say he should have put Lee in a deep shotgun and aired it out after the 3rd series.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:00 pm to RobbBobb
How did the Alabama run game look? It’s the o-line, the scheme, and the QB. Not just the QB.
51 carries for 288 yards with 5.6 avg (Gibbs rushed for 154 yards at 7.3 avg). Their o-line and running back carried them with their starting QB out and the backup QB only passing for 111 yards with a 5.8 avg ypc. In contrast, Daniels 38 yards led all rushers while completing 71% for 300 yards Also, Tennessee’s running game accounted for 186 yards from their running backs.
51 carries for 288 yards with 5.6 avg (Gibbs rushed for 154 yards at 7.3 avg). Their o-line and running back carried them with their starting QB out and the backup QB only passing for 111 yards with a 5.8 avg ypc. In contrast, Daniels 38 yards led all rushers while completing 71% for 300 yards Also, Tennessee’s running game accounted for 186 yards from their running backs.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:04 pm to RobbBobb
It's the 100 million doll hairs coach
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:10 pm to RobbBobb
Excellent post. They will try to argue but it starts and ends with the QB and their ability to recognize and react. Why the hell do you think they are trying to get the ball out quick? Kelly has said he doesn’t want Daniels reading. He is coaching a basketball team mentality because there is little strategy in that sport. It is all reaction and athleticism.
To the “scheme” idiots, WTH do you think they are doing with a 1 dimensional player? The opposing defenses are allowing him to sit and try to throw open someone and putting 7 in coverage with a spy on him. It is Johnny Manzieling him but he has less talent. To the Oline idiots I GUARANTEE you they will not go back and count the number of times he had more than 4 seconds to throw because that was SEVERAL. That is not on the Oline. Every single time the announcers said he had good protection I was yelling just throwing the freaking ball or throw it away. Most of the time he didn’t do either.
To the “scheme” idiots, WTH do you think they are doing with a 1 dimensional player? The opposing defenses are allowing him to sit and try to throw open someone and putting 7 in coverage with a spy on him. It is Johnny Manzieling him but he has less talent. To the Oline idiots I GUARANTEE you they will not go back and count the number of times he had more than 4 seconds to throw because that was SEVERAL. That is not on the Oline. Every single time the announcers said he had good protection I was yelling just throwing the freaking ball or throw it away. Most of the time he didn’t do either.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:13 pm to RobbBobb
Honestly I think it’s a bit of both the QB and WRs. Look at when he does have time no one is getting separation, the routes look lazy to me, and most times no one is actually looking for the ball. Some of this May be the route tree and scheme design but I bet a lot of it may be they get disinterested due to lack of targets. While the O-Line isn’t great we’ve had worse with better production over the last 10 years.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 1:19 pm
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