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The Offense Scheme Is The Issue
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:25 am
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:25 am
We have ELITE talent at WR and a dynamic QB on his feet, and yet we are trying to implement this dam pro-style offense with a freshman TE (I think he will be good, but not right now) instead of spreading them out 5-wide! Roll the dam QB out and let him *Russell Wilson voice* "RUN OR PASS"!!
It's the stubborn my way or the highway offense we struggled through for 10+ years with Les. Please BK, hire a young relevant offensive staff that can run the spread and let them run it!!
It's the stubborn my way or the highway offense we struggled through for 10+ years with Les. Please BK, hire a young relevant offensive staff that can run the spread and let them run it!!
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:27 am to lsukingcfb1
Maybe; it’s not Les Miles bad but could be better, hard to tell when you can’t block ‘em.
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:30 am to lsukingcfb1
Throw the bank at Garrett Riley.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:31 am to lsukingcfb1
It’s a bad scheme for sure. Long pass plays with a qb who won’t throw downfield.
It’s a terrible combination.
It’s a terrible combination.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:31 am to lsukingcfb1
I don’t think the scheme is 100 percent to blame I think if we had a QB who could read a defense,understand when he is about to get blitzed an what to do with the ball if they are blitzing, and wasn’t scared to throw it that the offense would look a lot different. I think they will recruit an find a QB who can run the offense but currently they just need to do simple stuff because we have a 1 read QB so run the short passing game plays and don’t get cute
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 11:17 am
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:32 am to lsukingcfb1
I loved not only the up-tempo aspect of tenn’s O but also their formations. Reminded me of how Brady would find mismatches. Ball was out in just a couple seconds
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:32 am to lsukingcfb1
ahhh yes you were one of the posters who called for a new OC each year under miles huh? when miles was the issue and the common denominator right?
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:34 am to Fat Bastard
No, no I did not. But thanks for assuming, dumbass!
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:51 am to lsukingcfb1
I don’t think roll out passing is the answer. It’s been my impression that JD always throws long when running to his right. He has to set before his passes have any chance of being close to target. Thats why Nuss is not the answer. He is strictly a step back and set qb.
I disagree with JD trying to pass more. He was brought in to be a running qb and that’s what he needs to do if he doesn’t feel comfortable making a pass after his read.
Actually, the threat of a running quarterback would probably allow more single coverage to let receivers fight for ball.
I noticed Saturday that there was usually a short and long receiver on the same trajectory line giving JD an option to throw to one or the other. This is probably a good scheme for him but he needs to have a predetermined running lane if both receivers are covered.
I disagree with JD trying to pass more. He was brought in to be a running qb and that’s what he needs to do if he doesn’t feel comfortable making a pass after his read.
Actually, the threat of a running quarterback would probably allow more single coverage to let receivers fight for ball.
I noticed Saturday that there was usually a short and long receiver on the same trajectory line giving JD an option to throw to one or the other. This is probably a good scheme for him but he needs to have a predetermined running lane if both receivers are covered.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 10:55 am
Posted on 10/9/22 at 10:59 am to dmatt2021
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This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 11:03 am
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:13 am to lsukingcfb1
quote:we are asking Daniels to do the one thing he can’t do. I give up. This is peak Cam Cameron
have ELITE talent at WR and a dynamic QB on his feet, and yet we are trying to implement this dam pro-style offense with a freshman TE (I think he will be good, but not right now) instead of spreading them out 5-wide! Roll the dam QB out and let him *Russell Wilson voice* "RUN OR PASS"!!
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:14 am to lsukingcfb1
It’s really not the problem. We have a QB who doesn’t take downfield chances.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:16 am to lsukingcfb1
I’ve said it’s the scheme for weeks. We have the most predictable and worst offense in the SEC.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:20 am to tigerfoot
Anyone who watched the bama a&m game yesterday can see our scheme needs to be updated. Both teams had 1st year QBs with issues and the schemes were far more advanced than we run.
Bama ran some RPO, pistol, stretch runs, no TE, one TE. The O is far more advanced than what we run and with a backup QB that isn’t accurate throwing.
Bama ran some RPO, pistol, stretch runs, no TE, one TE. The O is far more advanced than what we run and with a backup QB that isn’t accurate throwing.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:22 am to lsukingcfb1
EXACTLY why the hell are we not rolling Daniels out. You sir see the obvious.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:32 am to lsukingcfb1
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We have ELITE talent at WR and a dynamic QB on his feet, and yet we are trying to implement this dam pro-style offense with a freshman TE (I think he will be good, but not right now) instead of spreading them out 5-wide! Roll the dam QB out and let him *Russell Wilson voice* "RUN OR PASS"!!
It's the stubborn my way or the highway offense we struggled through for 10+ years with Les. Please BK, hire a young relevant offensive staff that can run the spread and let them run it!!
I think it's a combination of the scheme and JD's lack of an ability to read a defense or accurately throw more than a 10-yard pass. JD's abilities are built to function in an RPO style offense, but that's not what we're currently running. Denbrock is doing JD no favors by forcing him to operate within a system in which he is obviously uncomfortable and ill equipped for. It's more of the square peg/round hole situation that we suffered through for years with Les Miles.
BK is not a stupid man. He's coached football long enough to have forgotten more than the rest of us will ever learn. So, that being the case, why did he go out an get a transfer QB who would not work within the structure of the offense he wants to run? He obviously researched JD enough to know exactly what he was getting. Did he feel that he could develop him into a better passer? If so, it's obvious that it's not working. So, what's the solution? Seems pretty clear to me. Either you change the system to fit the personnel you have, or you change the personnel to fit the system you want to run. Continuing along the path we're currently on will just lead to more failure.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:38 am to lsukingcfb1
You can only “scheme” around the talent you have. Guys we do not have a offensive line. We have a hodgepodge of young guys playing out of position. You can’t put a good scheme around that.
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:39 am to lsukingcfb1
Our receivers drop balls and can’t get open when the game is on the line. I don’t think they’re elite by any standards
Posted on 10/9/22 at 11:41 am to dmatt2021
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don’t think the scheme is 100 percent to blame I think if we had a QB who could read a defense,understand when he is about to get blitzed an what to do with the ball if they are blitzing, and wasn’t scared to throw it that the offense would look a lot different
I’m so tired of this. Daniels and Denbrock were both Kelly decisions. If it’s a bad combination, it’s one our staff consciously decided on.
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