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re: Why is a freshman TE getting twice as many targets as an All American WR every game?

Posted on 10/2/22 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 1:10 pm to
bullshite.
Posted by TigenPenn
Member since Jan 2018
167 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 1:21 pm to
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Page 1 of 3 Message Why is a freshman TE getting twice as many targets as an All American WR every game?


Cuz if you’re asking this maybe other teams are too? Would it matter if we won?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13335 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 1:57 pm to
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Denbrock is your answer.
Partly... the majority. But when you have a QB that isn't going to pick you apart by always finding the one guy who has the missmatch or open zone he's going to rely on trust/feeling when things get tight downfield.

There is no reason for JD to have confidence in Boutte. He hasn't produced, isn't making those "can always rely on me" difficult plays, isn't running good routes (e.g.- feet, not yards, from boundary giving an uber tight window for JD), and probably is 2nd in targets (after yesterday) and is 5th in receptions.

One thing JD does do welll is spread the ball around and Denbrock also gets some credit for that. You can't waste opportunities on a non-producer when struggling on 3rd downs.

And if you want to go by eye test- compare how the passing game went against MSST w/o Boutte compared to last night. Which isn't a fair comparison by any stretch but that's how "eye tests" work.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:00 pm to
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Don’t know whether to laugh, cry or offer help.


Well, I speak often with a few players. Buckle up kid, we won't be so lucky from here in out with wins.

It's not hard to see if you really look
Posted by The Real Drooby
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
1454 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:07 pm to
Does JD need eye exam?
Maybe he can’t see more than 20 yards
Serious question
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9771 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:15 pm to
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Part of it is scheme
Part of it is how the defenses are playing us
Most of it is because the quarterback is extremely risk averse


This.
Posted by Doctor K
mandeville
Member since Oct 2014
735 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:22 pm to
Yes, your all American is not playing like one! He drops balls and pouts! Need to target Bech!
Posted by Doctor K
mandeville
Member since Oct 2014
735 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:24 pm to
He is but he needs to bust it!!
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15671 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:25 pm to
b/c JD5 gives LSU the best chance to win. That's all you need to know.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3392 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:28 pm to
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Boutte is 3rd best receiver on the team right now


Quite possibly the truth-

Looks like he’s not the sure handed receiver he was believed to be. He was dropping passes last night that were thrown right on his numbers.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85063 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:29 pm to
He’s big, only runs 3 yards down the field, then stops and waves while wide open. He’s the first person JD sees that’s open so he chunks it. Otherwise he tucks and runs.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4585 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:31 pm to
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Can someone please explain this to me?


Preach on. A proven cadre of WR's, with the potential to be even better, gets wasted. Sooner or later it will become 'ref A 'for other coaches to point out to our incoming WR recruits AND current players who could hit the portal. Need to address this ASAP whether it be shorter routes, end arounds, bubble screens, etc. Get them the darn ball.
Posted by teeMike
In my mind, I'm already there.
Member since Feb 2007
7574 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:32 pm to
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That about sums up most of our fans. We knew coming in it was rebuilding year yet you’ve got dumbasses criticizing everyone and everything at the first hint of adversity. Lots of quitters and mentally weak people among us.


This post really caught my attention mainly because you would definitely put me in this category. Unfortunately, patience has eluded me in recent years.

However, how muck latitude do you give under the banner of rebuilding? LSU has NFL talent on this roster, especially in the WR group. Some competency judgements and expectations on scheme, adjustments, skill development, etc. bears merit 5 games in, no?
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted by IndianInBR
L'auberge
Member since Dec 2015
3272 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:32 pm to
Because we are trying to develop our own Brock Bowers
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4346 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:41 pm to
Because our QB does not see the field. He will not or cannot let the ball go.

Jenkins. Jefferson.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 2:58 pm to
Sure did because the TE has no place being in the game. He should be running more WR stacked sets not sets with TEs. I wouldn't expect anyone who lacks football IQ to understand that though. Not only that, there's designs in his concepts to look at the TE as the first read which is what Daniels is doing. He's open, he throws it. So yes, I nailed it. Denbrock is your answer.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 2:59 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18386 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:01 pm to
Guy was in shock in Game 1 against FSU babbling at halftime and after the game. Looked out of it last night too.
Guess he is used to playing bad competition for years at ND and is adjusting to the big boys in the SEC.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 4:07 pm
Posted by ShaneTheMaster
Tampa, FL
Member since Nov 2009
2933 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:03 pm to
The real question is when there are 30 pass plays called, why are only 13 passes thrown?
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 3:33 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21616 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:31 pm to
He is big and close, consider him a safety valve
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 3:42 pm to
Bc he gets open?
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