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re: Jayden Daniels accounted for 93% of the offense

Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:13 am to
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8762 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:13 am to
I agree with you. The play calling was horrible until the 4th quarter. Denbrock sucks. He sucked at Cincinnati as well.

Im also imagining a game where Boutte doesn’t shite the bed. JD would have had 80% completion and 3-4 passing TDs.

The original argument is that he accounted for 93% of the offense, which is on the OC. We handed off 13 times. That’s play calling.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9940 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:14 am to
It was the only option he had. He never had a pocket until the 4th quarter.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18154 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:17 am to
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This is what happens when you tuck and run 1 second into ever play
it's as if you didn't even watch the game.

Our OL was awful and Daniels had no time to go through progressions. His only options were to scramble or take a sack.

Thank god he has the legs to scramble. Otherwise, he'd have been sacked 15 times.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:18 am to
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It was the only option he had. He never had a pocket until the 4th quarter.



the very first play there was no other choice, it was almost like the Brad Wing fake punt against UF, after that he just took off too early, happy feet, no thought of progressions, just take the snap and haul arse
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30667 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:33 am to
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He threw the ball 34 times for a 73.5% completion percentage and that's with the drops. We have people acting like all he did was run and that he was inaccurate.




People are stupid and invested in being right. It's a symptom of our modern society I believe.

Daniels wasn't my first pick for QB, like many I have my concerns about how he'll do vs SEC caliber defenses. But he played a good game.

He was 26/35. Boutte had 4 targets his way that he missed. Cain had 3 that he missed.

He had 16 runs, most, if not all were scrambles though I assume the 4 sacks also show up as run attempts and at least one of his runs was the results of a poor snap on a running play where he had to tuck the ball rather than hand it off because the runner was to far out as a result of the snap (at least that is how it looked to me).

So of his 16 runs, at least 5 were not him looking at his first read then taking off. I suspect there were at least a couple of QB runs called. So the guy that people are calling 1st read then run threw the ball 35 times (actually 3 more time that were offset by penalties) and at least 5 other times he did not pull and run after the first read. So of the 51 (54 if you count the plays that were erased due to penalties) times that he made a play from a passing position he could only have pulled after 1 read and run 11 of those. And does anyone think that he had time in all 11 of those plays to go through his progressions rather than run? I'm sure some probably do but I don't.

Posted by MRGeaux
Member since Jul 2018
297 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:34 am to
You are exactly correct. It was play calling. But they had 7 months to determine how the play calling was going to go and who we needed to get the ball to.. the QB should get the ball to the (play makers). Then tuck it after you’ve gone through at least 3 progressions. He should not be 93% of the offense. Sooner or later that’s too easy to stop.. Brice Young, who is a dual threat QB, threw for “7” touchdowns. He was 93% of his offense as well, just in a completely different way!
Posted by tibebecolston
Member since Mar 2013
4144 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:37 am to
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One read Daniels is the premise. If the first isn’t open. Tuck and run baby.


I know this is meant as in insult by our typically ignorant fan base, but when you have the best athlete on the field it’s usually a good thing.

Our fans would be complaining about Lamar Jackson or Mike Vick not making 4 reads in the pocket.

Read one, read two and this dude should be gone. He does need to learn to look up field when he breaks out of the pocket as those are when the biggest plays can be made.
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
1236 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:00 am to
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I know this is meant as in insult by our typically ignorant fan base, but when you have the best athlete on the field it’s usually a good thing.

Our fans would be complaining about Lamar Jackson or Mike Vick not making 4 reads in the pocket.

Read one, read two and this dude should be gone. He does need to learn to look up field when he breaks out of the pocket as those are when the biggest plays can be made.


Daniels will not have the run option when we play good SEC teams. I'd rather see him wait for a wide receiver to get open than tuck and run. His style reminds me of Jordon Jefferson....if first isn't open dump pass or run like HELL. He will not outrun an SEC defense. This style offense does not work in SEC
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
544 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:00 am to
It is partially his fault, because if he is able to hit the hot reads from wherever the blitzer is coming, then it would slow down the blitz. A good QB can make an offensive line look good. Also, knowing how to maneuver inside a pocket is a skill he doesn’t seem to possess. Also, a QB should help his linemen identify blitzers. Also, Daniels had checkdowns that he didn’t use at all.

It’s popular to blame offensive linemen, but frequently it is the QB. There were some line breakdowns, but Daniels made them look much worse than they were. If he remains the starter, there are a lot of mistakes that he will need to correct.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23182 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:16 am to
Clown post.

Daniels had wife open WRs watching him scramble all night. WRs that are not the primary read are just out there exercising they have 0% chance of getting a pass. Also, we lost.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6462 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:18 am to
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The only other player with an argument is Jay Ward.


Jay Ward graded out the lowest on the defense.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66830 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:20 am to
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Lsu has amazing athletes on the roster that are much better than Daniels running with the football.


Daniels is pretty good running the ball.

We just need diversity in the offense.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261535 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:23 am to
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but when you have the best athlete on the field it’s usually a good thing.


Unless its Cam Newton, no.

Posted by la flama blanca 55
new orleans
Member since Mar 2015
38 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:33 am to
Kelly said in his post game interview the game plan was for him to run when fsu was in man coverage.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2963 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:35 am to
There is a lot of chatter in this thread about not getting the RBs more involved through handoffs and short passes and how that negatively impacted the game. The problem is that doesn’t match the reality of how the game played out. There were only two drives in the game (excluding the end of the first half) that did not result in making it to the red zone. One started with a swing pass to Goodwin that lost 4 yards. The other started with a Goodwin rush for no gain. They were trying to get the RBs involved. It just wasn’t working. They had success on every other drive relying on Daniels to make plays.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24276 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 9:39 am to
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He had 47 yards passing n the first half when it mattered

The whole game matters. And I know I'm being hard on him, but if Boutte makes an easier catch for a TD than the FSU player made with one hand instead of dropping it like he did or even looks for the ball on what should have been another TD (as pointed out by the announcer), LSU wins the game.
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