re: Would you be ok with 8-4 this year if...

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I would add get to a bowl game and win it in convincing fashion - vs a quality opponent — showing promise for 2023 season

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And I would tack on that we impress high schoolers and finish out recruiting with a bang to have a top 3 class, then yes 8-4 this year will do.

P.S. And we retain all our coaches and coordinators (no leaving for head coach jobs).