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re: For all the UFO buffs out there I have a question….

Posted on 8/17/22 at 3:38 am to
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 3:38 am to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 4:12 am to
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Bob Lazars story is one of the most captivating stories ever told. I can’t believe no one has ever touched it.


He's been all over TV for decades now. Every UFO TV show, radio show, and podcast has done something on him since he "came out" in the early 90's (I think it was).

I think he is a liar, but a pretty decent one. However, even though his story is consistent, not all of the facts check out. For example, someone researched his academic background and can find no records of him having attended MIT or CalTech. His high school records were also researched and he was bottom third of his class. There is NO WAY a guy with his record gets into MIT or CalTech. Bob seems decently intelligent, but even if he is smart, being smart alone wont get you into MIT or CT. You also need the grades which he didn't have.

What Joe Rogan or someone else should have done is get a real PhD level physicist on the show and quiz Bob about technical shite. Have Bob solve equations (lol). He couldn't and it would totally expose him. Not sure why someone hasn't thought of that.

As for his academic records, I believe Bob responded that the govt. wiped or altered his records. But, really, the government would have no reason to alter his academic records even if he were telling the truth about everything. But let's assume for the sake of argument that the government did alter records. This STILL wouldn't explain why not one person has ever came forward and said "Yeah I was class of 1982 with Bob Lazar, he was in Physics 453 with me." Nor has any professor come forward saying they taught Bob. No students and no professors. No one. And those people would not be bound by any secrecy because attending MIT is not classified information.

Probably the most convincing argument against him is the fact that (if he's legit) then he is certainly violating multiple NDA's relating to classified information. The fact he has never been arrested should tell you all you need to know.

Of course, the believers will argue that arresting him would make it obvious he was telling the truth, so the government isn't going to do it. I would say this is unlikely because if they didn't make an example out of him then anyone could talk about anything. In other words, they'd just be inviting more people to talk about other projects.

Bob is just a guy who has read a few popular physics books, knows some basic terminology and fools people who are not physicists. He IS a good story teller, can stay consistent over the years, and is a decent actor. But he is not a physicist.
Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
5408 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 5:01 am to
He said he was involved in nuclear testing. Did you not listen to gage interview?
Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
5408 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 5:03 am to
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He's been all over TV for decades now. Every UFO TV show, radio show, and podcast has done something on him since he "came out" in the early 90's (I think it was). I think he is a liar, but a pretty decent one. However, even though his story is consistent, not all of the facts check out. For example, someone researched his academic background and can find no records of him having attended MIT or CalTech. His high school records were also researched and he was bottom third of his class. There is NO WAY a guy with his record gets into MIT or CalTech. Bob seems decently intelligent, but even if he is smart, being smart alone wont get you into MIT or CT. You also need the grades which he didn't have. What Joe Rogan or someone else should have done is get a real PhD level physicist on the show and quiz Bob about technical shite. Have Bob solve equations (lol). He couldn't and it would totally expose him. Not sure why someone hasn't thought of that. As for his academic records, I believe Bob responded that the govt. wiped or altered his records. But, really, the government would have no reason to alter his academic records even if he were telling the truth about everything. But let's assume for the sake of argument that the government did alter records. This STILL wouldn't explain why not one person has ever came forward and said "Yeah I was class of 1982 with Bob Lazar, he was in Physics 453 with me." Nor has any professor come forward saying they taught Bob. No students and no professors. No one. And those people would not be bound by any secrecy because attending MIT is not classified information. Probably the most convincing argument against him is the fact that (if he's legit) then he is certainly violating multiple NDA's relating to classified information. The fact he has never been arrested should tell you all you need to know. Of course, the believers will argue that arresting him would make it obvious he was telling the truth, so the government isn't going to do it. I would say this is unlikely because if they didn't make an example out of him then anyone could talk about anything. In other words, they'd just be inviting more people to talk about other projects. Bob is just a guy who has read a few popular physics books, knows some basic terminology and fools people who are not physicists. He IS a good story teller, can stay consistent over the years, and is a decent actor. But he is not a physicist.
you have not done your research
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 5:13 am to
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Posted by mattchewbocca
houma, la
Member since Jun 2008
5408 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 5:14 am to
No there isn’t
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 5:48 am to
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He named element 115 20 years before scientists knew its existence.
No, he didn’t. Anybody can just predict the next potential number of an element. You know they go in order, right? Based on their atomic number. So it’s not a prediction to say there is an undiscovered element 115 out there.

The way he described element 115 is absolutely nothing like the actual element 115 that was discovered.

Bob Lazar is full of shite.

He knows just enough science to seem like a genius to people like us who know very little about science. But there have been actual physicists listen to his claims and say he gets the science wrong constantly. Like an amateur would. He’s conning people.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 5:52 am
Posted by jivy26
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 5:49 am to
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Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
3124 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:04 am to
He is actually the most credible person who has proven his case while not making one penny off of his story.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:05 am to
They have made a movie with him. It’s a documentary, not a Hollywood film.
Posted by Tempratt
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:05 am to
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death of the story.


I don't understand how HE isn't dead yet.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24840 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:34 am to
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The guy is a loon, he is not a physicist


I know Lazar. He and I pledged DKE together at MIT and we used to bang green bitches with Captain Kirk. I didn’t wanna do it, but those two were into aliens even back then, and I felt pressured, so what the hell.
Posted by ogpancake
Livingston, LA
Member since Mar 2019
48 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:44 am to
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You mean like this movie


This cracks me up. I was hoping someone besides me would know about it. Just shows the IQ level of some of these guys on here. One google search before posting this would’ve blew this cats mind.
Posted by ogpancake
Livingston, LA
Member since Mar 2019
48 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:46 am to
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That’s documentary that “we” all know about. Not a movie. Thanks for not truly looking into this story before posting restarted crap.


So OP would rather a motion picture that explains nothing about UFOs? He seems to want some information that’s not from James Cameron. You’re restarted
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8043 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:50 am to
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The JRE episode is a good listen but it's not very high energy, the subject is great but he's not very lively


Best Rogan episode ever.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68435 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 6:59 am to
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He’s a no bullshite sort of person
People always preface these stories with this.
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 From his description he saw a very large dark triangular shaped craft with a light on each corner hovering silently passed his house. He said if he had a rock he could probably throw it and hit it. It was that low. He doesn’t believe it was from earth. True story that I’ve got him to tell many times and every time his face changes as if he was staring into eternity
This is bullshite.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17547 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 7:58 am to
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Bob lazar


Some people are great story tellers. If he was talking about real info - which would be highly classified - then he would have been taken care of long ago. Just sayin.
Posted by Das Jackal
Da Bayou
Member since Sep 2011
2600 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:09 am to
I recently watched Bob Lazar on the Joe Rogan podcast for the first time. I have to say, I believe him. Made me go down the UFO rabbit hole for a few days.. If anyone hasn't seen the David Fravor episode on Joe Rogan its definitely worth a watch. That guy is a 100% credible UFO eye witness.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15753 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:35 am to
I believe Lazar. The tic tacs seen by naval aviators confirms it for me. We possess some kind of tech that defies physics and the Pentagon is hiding behind aliens to cover their tracks. They have been doing this for decades. Roswell was a secret Air Force project that went down.
Posted by 4thand20
Member since Nov 2018
262 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:06 am to
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They made a horrible recreation movie about the Travis Walton case


I kinda liked Fire in the Sky
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