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re: Troubling statement from The Gospel Coalition.

Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:42 pm to

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Who said I'm not?


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You don't know shite. Eat a dick.



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:44 pm to
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Oxymoron


Sure. For someone who doesn’t understand language.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5539 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 4:02 pm to
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I never understand why so many churches say Jesus will forgive your sins, except for sucking cock, he won't forgive no gay shite. Jesus don't play that. The preacher can frick Steve's wife and that will be forgiven. But we can't abide for Timmy and Tommy to be a couple happy queers.

Certainly you know the truth about your scenario and the questions you imply and that it’s not one sin or another worse than the next, or one forgiven more readily than another. They’re all bad and any one of them separates you from God. And we’re all guilty and fail to live up to Jesus’s sinless standards. Sin needs to be recognized and acknowledging personal culpability, be repented of. We have to turn away from our precious, cherished, often hidden sins and turn to Jesus for forgiveness and give our best efforts relying on God’s grace to “sin no more.”

Plug in homosexuality in place of adultery and make the apprehended sinner a man in the following passage and see how it fits.
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“Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. The law of Moses says to stone her.

What do you say?”

They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!”

Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.

When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman.

Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”

“No, Lord,” she said. And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 8/8/22 at 4:03 pm to
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Yeah but Jesus also told the woman to go sin no more. Point is, of course we are to give second chances and love the sinner but by the same token, that doesn’t give a free pass when the sin is blatantly continued.


I don't remember Jesus ever saying it was a human christians responsibility to judge other humans christian or not for their actions.

As i remember the bible he was clear about loving your neighbor, showing compassion, and doing your best to be a good person.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12965 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 4:11 pm to
It’s love the sinner, hate the sin. Not love the sinner and celebrate sexual deviancy.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42169 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 4:42 pm to
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never understand why so many churches say Jesus will forgive your sins, except for sucking cock, he won't forgive no gay shite. Jesus don't play that. The preacher can frick Steve's wife and that will be forgiven. But we can't abide for Timmy and Tommy to be a couple happy queers.


Speaking of "needing Jesus"
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 4:54 pm to
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Some of you make Jesus sounds like the biggest egotistical maniac a-hole.
People like you always want to twist things so that God sounds bad and guys who stick other guys' wieners in their buttholes are the good guys.

The rules are that we all fall short of Heaven. Every single one. The difference is who accepts the new Covenant - to accept Jesus as their savior, as a second chance. A truly repentant person who lives an evil life and turns his back on it is no longer the evil person that he was. A good person who has lived a good life but rejects Jesus as his savior does not accept the way.

Your problem is you weigh people's lives based on one measure when you are told repeatedly that you're not graded on your works, but on the one question that is pass or fail, and you rejected it because you thought you were wiser than God.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 8:13 pm
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:00 pm to
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I don't remember Jesus ever saying it was a human christians responsibility to judge other humans christian or not for their actions.

As i remember the bible he was clear about loving your neighbor, showing compassion, and doing your best to be a good person.

Love =/= tolerance.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:15 pm to
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Ultimately you are to recognize you are incapable of earning your way into heaven, instead you need to acknowledge Jesus as your Savior. Without Him, you have no chance.


after the person recognizes all that is there any biblical step the sinner should take?

do protestants have a way to engage at the heart like orthodox and Catholics?
these two are to my eye better able to orient the practitioners to heart prayer and heart surrender even.
Posted by Kerchek
Member since Oct 2021
585 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:17 pm to
You sound exactly like an Islamic extremist and the irony is delicious.

"biblical purge" hahahahahahaha

y'all are delusional as always
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19597 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:18 pm to

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It’s not Christianity if you don’t. Jesus makes it clear with his own words: it’s him, or the lake of fire. That’s your choice.

I’m not aware of a single instance of Jesus gathering the masses to Him by declaring that they’d all burn in Hell for eternity. He encouraged repentance.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1096 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:19 pm to
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He encouraged repentance.


Repentance from what, exactly?
Posted by Kerchek
Member since Oct 2021
585 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:20 pm to
You can't reason with religious nut jobs man. Goes for all religions.

They just pick and choose what to follow.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 5:21 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:23 pm to
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communist 'long march through the institutions' is well at hand, now having infiltrated almost all Christian churches.


help us casual visitors to the gospel board.

use real names.
and two examples of communism.
people throw commie around like we are mind readers.

no sir. I dont follow internicene Christian chatter. do tell.

who are these communists. and what makes you so sure?

I must say I find it far fetched.
Posted by Telos
Member since Aug 2020
34 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:30 pm to
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I don't remember Jesus ever saying it was a human christians responsibility to judge other humans christian or not for their actions.


He did.

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If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. - Matthew 18:15-17


This specific example allows for an individual, a small group of Christians, and the Church body itself to properly judge a fellow Christian's action in at least one scenario. Paul provides further specification on Church discipline.

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As i remember the bible he was clear about loving your neighbor, showing compassion, and doing your best to be a good person.


This is true, but to love another is to will another's good. Sin by its very definition is an act that separates you from God (Goodness Itself). One does not will another's good by ignoring what harms the other person. To outright ignore another's sin would make you a mere flatterer and not a friend.

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For the flatterer always takes a position against the maxim "Know thyself", by creating in every man deception towards himself and ignorance both of himself and of the good and evil that concerns himself; the good he renders defective and incomplete, and the evil wholly impossible to amend. - Plutarch


Can one go too far in admonishing another? Of course.

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Excess and deficiency are proper to vice, the mean to virtue; for we are noble in only one way, but bad in all sorts of ways. - Aristotle
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:33 pm to
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Repentance from what, exactly?


don't play dumb.
its like trolling only boring.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2252 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:37 pm to
Can a same sex couple or drag/trans individual attend church and be welcomed? I say yes. But the church shouldn't be expected to bend the word. Jesus taught forgiveness and forgive 7 x 70 times. But He also taught to repent. And this is the difficult part regarding LGBT and the church.

I technically sin everytime I see Emelia Clarke's breasts on game of thrones. But I keep watching. Do I repent an infinite amount of times, or is 8 x 70 times one time too many?
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1096 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:45 pm to
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don't play dumb.
its like trolling only boring


I'm not playing dumb. Nor am I trolling.

Jesus spoke about sin, death, and condemnation quite often. He also lost lots of followers because his words could be harsh and difficult.

The other poster claimed Jesus did not preach about such things, just "repentance".

That begs the question: repentance from what?

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58259 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 5:59 pm to



Satan himself couldn’t have written a more umbilical passage
Posted by Kerchek
Member since Oct 2021
585 posts
Posted on 8/8/22 at 6:01 pm to
From the boogeyman

Repent OR ELSE hahahaha
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