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re: All of the solar panel California roofs are creating an environmental disaster
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:56 pm to upgrayedd
Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:56 pm to upgrayedd
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It's hilarious that these people say it's only harmful if it's in a landfill and not on your fricking roof
Yep. But as I said, they don’t think, the feel. And what they feel is what drives their decisions.
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:58 pm to tigerskin
I have a great idea. Fossil fuels as energy. Readily available, generally cheap when not over regulated, high energy density, easily transportable, and CO2 and H2O emissions are non-polluting and blend well with inorganic and organic life on earth.
Just spit balling tho...
Just spit balling tho...
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:00 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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This seems like a fairly simple solution, why are these ever ending up in landfills and not being recycled
Recycling is another scam. Most of our recycled material in the US and Europe just goes and sits in a landfill in South Asia. Even 60 minutes did a piece on this a few years ago.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:01 pm to tigerskin
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once it gets crushed and put into the landfill, a lot of those toxic chemicals and materials are going to leak into your groundwater.”
It’s California. What groundwater?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:02 pm to Lonnie Utah
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I don't disagree with the point that the OP is trying to make, but most modern landfills are lined to prevent groundwater contamination, so the quote is a bit disingenuous....
The problem is with heavy metal contamination the landfill leachate falls into the hazardous waste category and is more difficult and expensive to treat. Otherwise the leachate can be treated very cheaply at the local wastewater treatment plant.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:06 pm to tigerskin
Cradle to Grave. Something all the green movement proponents don’t ever want to discuss when it comes to their agenda.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:11 pm to tigerskin
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typical 25-year life cycle
Written by someone who has zero clue about solar module degradation.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:16 pm to Darth_Vader
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Leftists never consider the consequences of their actions. They go solely on emotion that “feels” like it’s the right thing to do. Logical thought never enters the equation.
Not sure how anyone can downvote this statement because it is basically true. Reference our current energy crisis. It was brought on by a bunch of pearl clutching. Doesn’t anyone remember the glaciers are supposed to have melted by now and there should be cities along the coast underwater?
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:24 pm to tigerskin
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Many are already winding up in landfills, where components that contain toxic heavy metals such as selenium and cadmium can contaminate groundwater.
Don't they have hazardous household waste programs that can collect these? My TEXAS suburb has one.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:25 pm to Lonnie Utah
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but most modern landfills are lined to prevent groundwater contamination, so the quote is a bit disingenuous...
Even with the bestest liners and fanciest engineering, how long can a landfill last? 50 years after capping? 100 years? Eventually the bill comes due.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:30 pm to Chad504boy
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can we just fly them to the moon? i mean we spend 50 billion on ukraine for the frick of it...
This is what trump wanted to buy Greenland for
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:41 pm to tigerskin
Reusable energy = snake oil of our time.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:48 pm to tigerskin
Very few are things that you can make yourself and have something better. Electricity is not one. fricking idiots chase wind and solar claiming its great but it looks ugly and does very little to be more sustainable
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:50 pm to upgrayedd
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It's hilarious that these people say it's only harmful if it's in a landfill and not on your fricking roof
???
There’s a lot of shite that’s generally safe in form or use “a” but terrible and dangerous in form/use “b”
You keep a device about 3 inches from your nutsack that would be hazardous as frick if it was ground up and dumped on the ground.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:50 pm to Lonnie Utah
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most modern landfills are lined to prevent groundwater contamination, so the quote is a bit disingenuous....
There is no room for this here. You are supposed to see California, get triggered, and abandon reason.
Thx.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:55 pm to GumboPot
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I have a great idea. Fossil fuels as energy
I have a better one that for some reason isn’t even discussed anymore, nuclear.
Also pleases the emissions tards
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:57 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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There’s a lot of shite that’s generally safe in form or use “a” but terrible and dangerous in form/use “b”
Asbestos is a good example of that. Pretty harmless unless broken up or disturbed
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:14 pm to tigerskin
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“But once it gets crushed and put into the landfill, a lot of those toxic chemicals and materials are going to leak into your groundwater.”
Lined landfills will not leach pollutants into the groundwater. They shouldn't anyway. All landfills are required to be lined same as haz waste landfills.
But they will certainly take up a lot of space in the landfill. Just more garbage now.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:32 pm to tigerskin
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Many are already winding up in landfills, where components that contain toxic heavy metals such as selenium and cadmium can contaminate groundwater.
Nah. Manufactured crisis. Landfills get a bad rap. They always add protective layers underneath to prevent soil/groundwater contamination.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:35 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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This seems like a fairly simple solution, why are these ever ending up in landfills and not being recycled with the valuable and toxic metals harvested and recycled?
Simple economics, for many things the cost to recycle is greater than the value of the materials recovered.
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