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re: Labor Force participation rate since the 1950's
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:30 am to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:30 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:"Y'all" includes you.
Y’all don’t understand the survey
quote:Correct, they are not in the labor force.
Someone calls you and they ask:
1. Are you working?…. No
2. Are you actively looking for a job?…. No
That person is not a part of the labor force.
quote:Incorrect, they are counted in the denominator used to calculate the percentages in the chart.
They are not counted anywhere on the graph in the OP.
quote:Not correct.
An old retired baby boomer isn’t answering yes to either of those questions. Their presence or absence is totally irrelevant to the chart in the OP.
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Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:37 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
Someone calls you and they ask:
1. Are you working?…. No
2. Are you actively looking for a job?…. No
That person is not a part of the labor force.
Correct.
quote:
They are not counted anywhere on the graph in the OP.
Incorrect. The graph gives the percentage of population aged 16+ that is part of the labor force - i.e. either employed or actively looking for employment. Everyone else (including retirees) represent the remaining percentage of population aged 16+ who are not participating in the labor force.
quote:
Y’all don’t understand the survey
You seem very confident.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:42 am to Korkstand
You are right
I was wrong
Apologies
I was wrong
Apologies
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:43 am to BurningHeart
Men now are weak and lazy.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:46 am to BurningHeart
Nvm
This post was edited on 3/14/22 at 11:47 am
Posted on 3/14/22 at 11:50 am to Wtodd
quote:
The Fed is to blame; make hunger part of the equation
I remember my Dad telling me "hunger is a huge motivator."
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:04 pm to Wtodd
quote:
The Fed is to blame; make hunger part of the equation
Did the Fed export all our jobs, quadruple welfare and bastardize our education system over that time?
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:11 pm to wutangfinancial
I read this chart as men are becoming weaker. Everyone became lazy with Government recent handouts.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:17 pm to Bow to Auburn
quote:Men do tend to get weaker as they reach retirement age, so you're kind of right. But I guess you are free to interpret it in whatever way makes you feel good about yourself and/or angry about something.
I read this chart as men are becoming weaker. Everyone became lazy with Government recent handouts.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:33 pm to BurningHeart
Look at that female graph.
Second Wave Feminism was such an absolute crock. It was a ploy by corporate oligarchs to double the labor market supply.
Why pay Dad $100k + benefits to work while Mom stays home and raises the kids when we can force both parents to work for $50k without benefits and double our work output while rigging the system with artificial pressures.
Ladies, enjoy spending 50 hours a week chained to a cubicle to pay for daycare, divorce attorneys and medical comorbidities. At least you got to burn your bra and show solidarity with a bunch of lesbians and cat-owning manhaters.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:36 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Men do tend to get weaker as they reach retirement age, so you're kind of right. But I guess you are free to interpret it in whatever way makes you feel good about yourself and/or angry about something.
The OT's position in a nutshell. Nugget of truth in point, yet skewed to meet the need to be angry about something.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:36 pm to Korkstand
quote:
Men do tend to get weaker as they reach retirement age, so you're kind of right. But I guess you are free to interpret it in whatever way makes you feel good about yourself and/or angry about something.
and yet, you seem to be the one taking offense to someone else’s opinion.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:39 pm to BurningHeart
Lemme guess... You got this in an email or off FB and have never been to the Fed website or taken anything above HS economics class.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:40 pm to Klark Kent
quote:
and yet, you seem to be the one taking offense to someone else’s opinion.
He isn't taking offense to anyone's opinion, I don't think. He's putting his own opinion out there that it seems like many in this thread take whatever graph, statistic, etc. and twist it to fit the narrative that things were better when "men were men", whatever that means. It happens in most every thread. Why? Who knows.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:43 pm to Odysseus32
this isn’t reddit or twitter, people have a right to their own opinions
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:47 pm to Klark Kent
quote:I seem offended?
and yet, you seem to be the one taking offense to someone else’s opinion.
I pointed out that a lot of the opinions in here are based on pure emotion, and that these emotional opinions produce more emotions. Further, these opinions disregard the facts that college enrollment has increased substantially since the 50s, and the average age of retirement has decreased substantially since the 50s, both of which impact these participation rates.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:52 pm to Klark Kent
Yes, just like he does.
His opinion is that the other opinions are based on a faulty interpretation of the chart. Which they are, because we don't have access in this thread to the underlying data. We have a chart with 3 lines and recessions shaded. It tells us nothing even as to what is happening, much less why it's happening.
His opinion is that the other opinions are based on a faulty interpretation of the chart. Which they are, because we don't have access in this thread to the underlying data. We have a chart with 3 lines and recessions shaded. It tells us nothing even as to what is happening, much less why it's happening.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:54 pm to Dawgwithnoname
quote:
As it was for thousands of years before the modern welfare state
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you probably have to go back to like 4000 BC. Egypt was definitely a welfare state
Posted on 3/14/22 at 12:55 pm to wutangfinancial
quote:
Did the Fed export all our jobs, quadruple welfare and bastardize our education system over that time?
Parents have a lot of blame for education and how many job openings are there right now? You turn
Posted on 3/14/22 at 1:01 pm to Abstract Queso Dip
quote:
Lemme guess... You got this in an email or off FB and have never been to the Fed website or taken anything above HS economics class.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
Want to state whatever argument you're trying to make and be wrong a 4th time?
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