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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/16/23 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by bikerack
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 10:10 pm to
Rail traffic has also been halted.

LINK
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21577 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 10:12 pm to
I'm stating that the Brittney Spears video was not videoed on that bridge.
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 10:20 pm to
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Seeing reports on twitter that explosions were heard on the Crimean bridge to Russia (Kerch bridge) and traffic has been stopped. Rumor is that part of the bridge has collapsed near the 145th pillar.


Huge if true, though dependent on the cause and how significant the damage is.

I find it highly coincidental that there was a large UV attempt made at Sevastopol in the last 24 hours as well.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 10:38 pm to
Bridge down ?

Being reported on CNN too
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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43700 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 10:41 pm to
If only none of the above was an option
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 10:44 pm to
Kerch bridge definitely confirmed as damaged though the extent is not yet know.

There is stuff going up everywhere on both sides of the information theatre and is looking like it is due to some form of strike as opposed to structural failure.

https://twitter.com/COUPSURE/status/1680774084093702146

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Telegram users living near the Kerch Bridge began reporting hearing an explosion at around 3 a.m. local time. The explosion was heard in Kerch and Taman.


https://t.me/dva_majors/21320

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Crimean leader Sergey Aksyonov:

Traffic on the Crimean bridge stopped due to an emergency bridge in the area of the 145th pillar

It is noted that law enforcement agencies and all responsible services work on the spot.

The nature of the incident is not specified.

The preliminary nature of the incident indicates the use by the enemy of small non-crewing swimming equipment to undermine the supports of the Crimean bridge.

Explosions sounded around 3 a.m.

Report the death of two civilians. Russian President alerts on emergency on Crimean bridge, emergency Security Council expected

Crimean bridge:

It is reported that one span fell, another left the support. The bridge support is damaged.

There is no evidence of damage to the railway part of the bridge yet.



https://twitter.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1680763079015923715

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I have no idea how to count bridge spans but I counted them anyways and I this is where I reached 145. I say this with almost zero confidence. Alls I did was take a high res image of the bridge and count the spans.



Im asking someone else to count the bridge spans and check my work.



https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1680776801092800514

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Per TASS, the Crimean ferry crossing service to Kuban has also been suspended.



The Russian Ministry of Transport suggests people travel to Crimea via Donetsk, Kherson, and Zaporizhia Oblasts.




https://twitter.com/witte_sergei/status/1680763992862785536

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Well, Ukraine hit the Kerch bridge - for real, this time. Putin’s apparently in a security meeting right now.

Damage is clearly visible from a distance.



There’s already video of dead and injured civilians. I won’t post it here, but it’s on the Slavyangrad telegram.

The big question (from a military perspective) is if Ukraine damaged the rail line or if they just hit the road span.

Based on what I can see I am guessing this was some kind of car bomb or sabotage, not a missile.


Posted by OutsideObserver
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Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 10:49 pm to
For an idea of how quickly this has caused problems transport wise even if only the road side.

https://twitter.com/bradyafr/status/1680760995331940352

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Traffic build up on the Russian side of the Crimean Bridge can be seen on Google Maps.





https://twitter.com/georgewbarros/status/1680770032119283712

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The Kerch Strait Bridge is a logistically significant object.

Russia will only have 1 ground supply line - the costal highway on the Sea of Azov - to sustain (or evacuate) its tens of thousands of troops in occupied Kherson & Crimea if UKR manages to degrade/destroy the bridge.





Taken on top of the recent slew of hits on supply dumps this is likely to make things quite difficult for Russia logistically depending on the extent of the damage.

Edit: Clarity





This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 10:54 pm
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 7/16/23 at 11:45 pm to
Wagner's Grey Zone is taking a shot at Medvedev after he proclaimed doomsday on Ukraine if they took out the Kerch bridge on 17/7/2022.

https://t.me/grey_zone/19568

quote:

You may have to kill Zaluzhny and Budanov again




Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19981 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 11:49 pm to
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Taken on top of the recent slew of hits on supply dumps this is likely to make things quite difficult for Russia logistically depending on the extent of the damage.


That bridge is Putin's pride. I'm surprised it is still standing as a supply route to Russian occupied Crimea.
Posted by SugarAggie
Member since Mar 2019
343 posts
Posted on 7/16/23 at 11:53 pm to
Saw a video where looks like 2 cruise missles hit it
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
773 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:00 am to
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Saw a video where looks like 2 cruise missles hit it



Got a link?

Most of the claims I have seen thus far are trending towards it being sea based UV's as there was a lack of any air defence prior to the explosions.

Still unclear on extent of damage - I have seen everything from a small section of a span collapsed, several spans collapsed, multiple holes on 2 spans, to an entire support collapsing.
Posted by SugarAggie
Member since Mar 2019
343 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:07 am to
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:08 am to
How effectively could Russia resupply using the Azov? I don’t think it’s deep enough for large ships. Can Ukraine hit light shipping in the Azov?
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
849 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:15 am to
First daylight photos ate on Reddit. Looks like the road bridge got nailed.

LINK

Damage looks similar to earlier to the attacks months ago.
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
773 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 12:35 am to
Cheers, unfortunately nothing in the video indicates it was the Kerch bridge.

These were already linked via Reddit - posting for easier viewing. The car seen in one of them is the same one seen in other video/still images so no reason to doubt these at this point.

https://t.me/dva_majors/21353







Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
773 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 3:52 am to
Video and footage without watermarks.

Definite indicators of a blast from beneath the bridge by the looks of it rather than a missile strike and most sources are claiming USV's as the method used.

Doesn't look to be nearly as much damage as the previous strikes and Russia is claiming supports are fine (of course). Rail bridge does not appear to have been effected as there are reports trains have already resumed.

The below account seems to be a good one for following on this particular event as they are following it closely with good attention to detail across a range of sources.

https://twitter.com/revishvilig/status/1680822824133353475 - Video

https://twitter.com/revishvilig/status/1680830583008624640




Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18092 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 5:42 am to
What Russian dolphins doing?

Like I said a few days ago:

quote:

We need to invest more in Ukrainian biolabs. I can't wait until the Ukrainians figure out how to get giant squid to attack the Russian dolphins defending Sevastopol.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18092 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 5:56 am to
Here's a still from a video from a passenger this morning on the train (the rail bridge is obviously unaffected).

Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2678 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 5:59 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 17 July 2023

After being sacked as commander of Russia's 58th Combined Arms Army (58 CAA) in Ukraine, General-Major Ivan Popov claimed that one of his key complaints had been about the lack of counter battery provision.

Russian ground forces survivability relies on effectively detecting Ukrainian artillery and striking against it, often with its force's own artillery. A key component of this approach is counter-battery radars, which allow commanders to rapidly locate enemy gun lines.

Russia is suffering from a worsening shortage of counter-battery radars, especially its modern ZOOPARK-1M. Only a handful of the originally deployed ZOOPARK fleet are likely to remain operational in Ukraine. Open-source footage showed another ZOOPARK being destroyed near the 58 CAA's area in early July 2023. The priority Popov apparently gave to this problem highlights the continued centrality of artillery in the war.
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