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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:10 pm to Lakeboy7
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:10 pm to Lakeboy7
That’s actually not true. D-day ends up being much worse if not for the airborne troops that dropped the night before the beach landings. Yes they got scattered out a good bit but they also managed to pull together fighting units that harassed the German rear causing mass confusion for the Wehrmacht and drew attention away from the beaches. Market Garden didn’t work but that was because they had Monty in charge. The Brecourt Manor attack by Easy Co 101st Airborne is still a legend today and was recreated in Band of Brothers.
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Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:13 pm to LSUPilot07
The main thing they accomplished was holding the causeways leading from Utah Beach. If not for that Utah would have been at least as bad as Omaha if not worse.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:18 pm to CitizenK
Russian pilots are trained how to look nice in drills for the generals and Putin cronies but wish it cones to actual combat tactics they are as effective as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest. They might as well sit on their unguided rockets and use them as dildos because they would be just as useful in that role as they are when their pilots pitch nose up and lob them out hoping they hit something because they are too afraid to cross the lines into Ukrainian territory. Every time I see that it just makes me laugh. If it were even possible for a force to look worse than the Russian Army has in this conflict the Russian Air Force managed to one-up them in incompetence.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:25 pm to LSUPilot07
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D-day ends up being much worse if not for the airborne troops that dropped the night before the beach landings.
Oh it was an epic disaster and Eisenhower vowed no more airborne operations but he caved on Market Garden.
If the Germans had followed their own plan and brought up their tanks the airborne guys were toast and even without the tanks their casualties were high.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:28 pm to Lakeboy7
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Eisenhower vowed no more airborne operations but he caved on Market Garden.
Good call, Ike
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:42 pm to BamaSaint
Here's a really interesting story in the Washington Post about the resistance in Kherson and how Ukrainian SOF worked with ordinary locals to track collaborators and spot locations of troops and weapons for incoming HIMARS attacks.
The Post has had really good coverage of this war, which actually caused me to subscribe, so I can gift this article so that you can read it from this link:
LINK
Here's how it starts:
The Post has had really good coverage of this war, which actually caused me to subscribe, so I can gift this article so that you can read it from this link:
LINK
Here's how it starts:
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Ihor didn’t even know the first name of the person who contacted him. The man said he was a member of Ukraine’s Special Operations Forces and wanted to know if Ihor was interested in helping fight the Russians occupying his city of Kherson.
“Sign me up,” Ihor responded.
For months, the two kept up a coded communication over the Telegram messaging app. Sometimes Ihor would be asked to help pinpoint locations from which the Russians were firing artillery. Other times, he sent the man, who asked to be called Smoke, the positions of Russian troops, armored vehicles and ammunition stocks.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:46 pm to BamaSaint
Operation Varsity was successful although unnecessary since Patton had already crossed the Rhine. MacArthur actually had quite a bit of success using airborne operations in the New Guinea campaign. But yeah airborne troops vs a peer opponent who's expecting you is fraught at best.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:48 pm to BamaSaint
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Good call, Ike
The Americans were taking over the war, it was a bone for Monty. But the deal was the British 1AB Division take the riskier jump. They essentially ceased to exist
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:50 pm to crazy4lsu
Anything going on other than OMLandshark melting bigly?
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:51 pm to LSUPilot07
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If it were even possible for a force to look worse than the Russian Army has in this conflict the Russian Air Force managed to one-up them in incompetence.
Russian media are saying that Russia is not using its T-14 Armata tank or the SU-57 plane in Ukraine because they’re afraid that their advanced technology might fall into the hands of the West.
LINK, 10:40 mark
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:14 pm to Kentucker
Russia advanced technology….lol
That’s a good one, ….lol
Definitely an oxymoron,
Thanks a needed a laugh today
That’s a good one, ….lol
Definitely an oxymoron,
Thanks a needed a laugh today
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:22 pm to Kentucker
The Armata is a complete failure that they can’t even sell off to other militaries, much less want in their own forces. The Su-57 requires western parts to even produce so they are fricked there too. Even if they had the materials they don’t have the money to produce that aircraft in any meaningful numbers. Russia would be better off just making more 4th gen+ MiG-35s than trying to produce the Su-57 but Russia has started to prefer larger fighters now like the Sukhoi jets whereas the Migs are usually about half the weight.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:23 pm to LSUPilot07
What did you fly in the military?
Posted on 11/18/22 at 8:27 pm to LSUPilot07
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in that role as they are when their pilots pitch nose up and lob them out hoping they hit something because they are too afraid to cross the lines into Ukrainian territory.
I know it's kinda apples/oranges but the 111F's and I'm quite sure the Strike Eagles both employ a nose up/lob maneuver lobbing Mk-84 LGB's, etc.
When using Pave Tack or other assorted lasing systems it increases stand-off distances to the target.
Just saying
Posted on 11/18/22 at 8:30 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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But I digress, sorry for gumming up the thread
This thread has been at times hijacked by petty disputes. Your comment on the training of US servicemen can't hold a candle to all the gumming up that's happened in this thread.
Posted on 11/18/22 at 8:46 pm to Shaken not Stirred
The point is that some of these are to launch missiles at Ukrainian aircraft from far away. Neither side is ever going much beyond the actual frontline. Russian pilots won't tangle with Ukrainian pilots.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:14 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Airborne drops have been obsolete in high intensity conflict since WWII. They still have their place in SOF operations but the days of mass paratrooper operations into contested LZs is over. I really don’t know why the US army is still so hung up on it.
We didn't need the A-10 anymore until we did. There are just some jobs too big for the 75th RR but still need airborne forcible entry that would be difficult or impossible via land.
As for modern uses airborne infantry was useful and I dare say critical in '99 in Panama and '03 in Bashur (when the 4th ID got told to pound sand by Turkey). If the Russians weren't a clusterfrick looking for a place to happen the Antonov Airport would have been the most recent example of airborne forcible entry.
I do get the idea that it is unlikely we will ever have to deploy an entire division or more via airborne insertion but you need a lot of airborne soldiers to keep a sizable IRF on standby constantly that can put boots on the ground anywhere in the world in 18 hours whether there is an airport or not. The 82nd and 173rd are both effective no matter how they get to the AO. Paratroopers are like a Swiss army knife and parachutes are like the awl or the tweezers you don't use them often but when you need them it is a Godsend that they are there.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:34 am to CitizenK
ISW Update
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Russian officials are preparing for further covert mobilization efforts even as the fall conscription cycle is underway, likely further flooding the already overburdened Russian force generation apparatus in such a way that will be detrimental to the development of mobilized and conscripted servicemen.
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The continuation of covert mobilization efforts and potential preparations for another mobilization wave in tandem with the current fall conscription cycle are likely adding substantial strain to an already over-burdened Russian force generation apparatus.
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The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) announced that it does not recognize the illegal Russian seizure and operation of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) or the illegal annexation of occupied Ukrainian territory, a sharp escalation in IAEA rhetoric.
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Social media footage circulated on November 18 shows a Russian soldier opening fire on Ukrainians as other Russian soldiers were surrendering.
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Key Takeaways
Russian officials are preparing for further covert mobilization efforts even as the fall conscription cycle is underway, likely further diminishing the development of quality mobilized and conscripted servicemen.
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) announced that it does not recognize the illegal Russian seizure of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) or the illegal annexation of other occupied Ukrainian territory, a sharp escalation in IAEA rhetoric.
Social media footage circulated on November 18 shows a Russian soldier opening fire on Ukrainians as other Russian soldiers were surrendering.
Russian forces reinforced rear areas in Luhansk Oblast and attempted to regain lost positions as Ukrainian troops continued counteroffensive operations along the Svatove-Kreminna line.
Russian forces continued limited ground assaults near Bakhmut and Avdiivka and in western Donetsk Oblast.
Russian occupation officials and military leadership are seemingly increasingly concerned about subsequent Ukrainian counteroffensive operations in southern Ukraine.
Russia continues to face exceedingly low morale and poor discipline among its forces against the backdrop of ongoing domestic backlash to partial mobilization.
Russian occupation officials and forces continued to intensify filtration measures in Russian-occupied territories
Posted on 11/19/22 at 7:04 am to StormyMcMan
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 19 November 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
On 16 November 2022, Russia conducted its largest ever debt issuance in a single day, raising RUB 820 (USD $13.6 billion). This is important for Russia as debt issuance is a key mechanism to sustain defence spending, which has increased significantly since the invasion of Ukraine.
Russia's declared 'national defence' spending for 2023 is planned at approximately RUB 5 trillion (USD $84 billion), a more than 40% increase on the preliminary 2023 budget announced in 2021.
Debt issuance is expensive during periods of uncertainty. The size of this auction highly likely indicates the Russian Ministry of Finance perceives current conditions as relatively favourable but is anticipating an increasingly uncertain fiscal environment over the next year.
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 19 November 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
On 16 November 2022, Russia conducted its largest ever debt issuance in a single day, raising RUB 820 (USD $13.6 billion). This is important for Russia as debt issuance is a key mechanism to sustain defence spending, which has increased significantly since the invasion of Ukraine.
Russia's declared 'national defence' spending for 2023 is planned at approximately RUB 5 trillion (USD $84 billion), a more than 40% increase on the preliminary 2023 budget announced in 2021.
Debt issuance is expensive during periods of uncertainty. The size of this auction highly likely indicates the Russian Ministry of Finance perceives current conditions as relatively favourable but is anticipating an increasingly uncertain fiscal environment over the next year.
Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:23 am to cypher
A gas pipeline near St. Petersburg exploded this morning. Cause unknown
4 different angles
4 different angles
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