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Gaston got screwed over by the Gold Digging Belle
Posted on 2/16/22 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 2/16/22 at 5:42 pm
BOTH Gaston and the Beast treated Belle like shite at the beginning of the movie.
I’d argue Gaston actually treated her BETTER than the beast. He offered her an opportunity to be married to him and he promised to bring her food/shelter and provide her a strong family of strapping children. He THEN puts his life on the line to save her against a monster.
Meanwhile, the beast kidnaps/imprisons her dad. He then kidnaps and imprisons Belle while being a complete douche in the process.
At this point - Belle learns to love the beast over time because she is stuck with the bastard. So the question is obvious: wouldn’t she have learned to love Gaston as well if she would have stuck it out with him? Of course. The movie proves she’s this type of person.
So what’s the real selling point of the beast at the beginning of the movie? Why did she so quickly throw herself at his feet to save a dad who only treated her nice if she complimented him.
Answer: money
The little money whore saw the castle and servants and that’s what opened her eyes. I’m my opinion, that’s all she really wanted…and she got it.
So the moral is - money always wins no matter how badly the woman is treated.
I’d argue Gaston actually treated her BETTER than the beast. He offered her an opportunity to be married to him and he promised to bring her food/shelter and provide her a strong family of strapping children. He THEN puts his life on the line to save her against a monster.
Meanwhile, the beast kidnaps/imprisons her dad. He then kidnaps and imprisons Belle while being a complete douche in the process.
At this point - Belle learns to love the beast over time because she is stuck with the bastard. So the question is obvious: wouldn’t she have learned to love Gaston as well if she would have stuck it out with him? Of course. The movie proves she’s this type of person.
So what’s the real selling point of the beast at the beginning of the movie? Why did she so quickly throw herself at his feet to save a dad who only treated her nice if she complimented him.
Answer: money
The little money whore saw the castle and servants and that’s what opened her eyes. I’m my opinion, that’s all she really wanted…and she got it.
So the moral is - money always wins no matter how badly the woman is treated.
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 5:50 pm to theunknownknight
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I’d argue Gaston actually treated her BETTER than the beast. He offered her an opportunity to be married to him and he promised to bring her food/shelter and provide her a strong family of strapping children. He THEN puts his life on the line to save her against a monster.
Meanwhile, the beast kidnaps/imprisons her dad. He then kidnaps and imprisons Belle while being a complete douche in the process.
Lets not underplay that Gaston tried to get her father thrown in an asylum for the rest of his life if she wouldn't force marry/get raped by him. I think Gaston is a very entertaining character and villain, but he's still quite the piece of shite.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 2/16/22 at 5:52 pm to OMLandshark
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Lets not underplay that Gaston tried to get her father thrown in an asylum for the rest of his life if he wouldn't force marry/get raped by him. I think Gaston is a very entertaining character and villain, but he's still quite the piece of shite.
We know that happened.
At the point Belle made her choice, she never knew this so that doesn’t factor at all into her decision. If she would have graciously accepted Gaston’s offer, none of those bad actions would have occurred.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 5:54 pm to OMLandshark
He eats five dozen eggs every morning. That’s just silly.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 5:54 pm to theunknownknight
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At this point - Belle learns to love the beast over time because she is stuck with the bastard.
Stockholm Syndrome
Posted on 2/16/22 at 5:55 pm to theunknownknight
Was the live action version any good?
Posted on 2/16/22 at 5:56 pm to USMCguy121
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Was the live action version any good?
Haven’t seen it because I’m not gay
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:06 pm to USMCguy121
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Was the live action version any good?
While I like that Gaston is a war hero and widows is his happy place, it’s inferior in every way. Almost all the changes were bad, but Beauty and the Beast is about as perfect of a movie Disney has ever made, so fricking with any of it causes it all to unravel.
The Lion King was an even worse idea if only because lions aren’t very expressive animals. They’re either tired or pissed and not much in between unlike say the wolves in the Jungle Book, since wolves are very expressive animals and all Shere Khan had to be was pissed the entire movie so that works with a Tiger.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:07 pm to theunknownknight
Well in that case:
Gaston goes to kill the beast AFTER he's freed Belle already and she has no obligation to come back.
The Beast was a mega-douche with clear anger issues from being a monster since he was like 11 years old (holy punishment doesnt fit the crime batman) - but he slowly becomes nice to Belle and starts catering to HER wants. ex: the library scene.
OTOH Gaston throws her favorite book in the mud and doesn't give a shite about what she wants.
Gaston had no chance. Not his fault so much, he was chadimus maximus in that town and everyone worshipped him, but he is a douche right up to his death after literally stabbing the beast in the back after he spared his life. All of this is witnessed by Belle, as well.
That said, did Belle want the high-life? Absolutely, her whole first intro song is being buttmad about living with peasants.
Gaston goes to kill the beast AFTER he's freed Belle already and she has no obligation to come back.
The Beast was a mega-douche with clear anger issues from being a monster since he was like 11 years old (holy punishment doesnt fit the crime batman) - but he slowly becomes nice to Belle and starts catering to HER wants. ex: the library scene.
OTOH Gaston throws her favorite book in the mud and doesn't give a shite about what she wants.
Gaston had no chance. Not his fault so much, he was chadimus maximus in that town and everyone worshipped him, but he is a douche right up to his death after literally stabbing the beast in the back after he spared his life. All of this is witnessed by Belle, as well.
That said, did Belle want the high-life? Absolutely, her whole first intro song is being buttmad about living with peasants.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:11 pm to theunknownknight
This is the exact content I fire up my internet machine for
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:33 pm to theunknownknight
quote:
I’d argue Gaston actually treated her BETTER than the beast. He offered her an opportunity to be married to him and he promised to bring her food/shelter and provide her a strong family of strapping children. He THEN puts his life on the line to save her against a monster.
Beast had a massive library of books he gave to her.
Gaston literally muddies Belle's books because he thinks it's a load of drivel. That alone is a Belle deal breaker.
He also didn't risk his own life to save her. He did it so he could bone her.
ETA: My book point was already made by a Marine of all people.
But I still add the him risking his life wasn't out of some altruistic sense of duty.
He also had other women throwing themselves at him, but he went for Belle. Gaston just wants what he can't have as a conquest.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:38 pm to OMLandshark
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lmost all the changes were bad, but Beauty and the Beast is about as perfect of a movie Disney has ever made, so fricking with any of it causes it all to unravel.
Hell, the Beauty and the Beast showed why these old animated movies turned live action just don't work.
With some exceptions, so much of the live action was a scene by scene replay of the cartoon - even included most of the old score, yet it just didn't work.
I agree with you that it's Beauty and the Beast is arguably Disney's best, but like most of the old movies they're too fantastical to really be portrayed in live action.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:44 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Top 3 greatest characters in the "Disney Princess era"
Gaston
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:45 pm to USMCguy121
quote:Gaston was fantastic
Was the live action version any good?
The rest. . .meh
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:01 pm to theGarnetWay
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Hell, the Beauty and the Beast showed why these old animated movies turned live action just don't work.
With some exceptions, so much of the live action was a scene by scene replay of the cartoon - even included most of the old score, yet it just didn't work.
I agree with you that it's Beauty and the Beast is arguably Disney's best, but like most of the old movies they're too fantastical to really be portrayed in live action.
Also if they were going to do live action Beauty and the Beast, they should have done it years ago when they had two actors who were both born to play these characters: Anne Hathaway as Belle and Hugh Jackman as Gaston (Jackman did portray him on Broadway).
While Luke Evans did fine as Gaston, Emma Watson was an awful Belle and can’t sing worth a shite. Hathaway and Jackson can sing though and are both spitting images of the characters in real life. But by the time they got around to it in the mid-2010s both Hathaway and Jackman were too old to portray the characters, so that sucks.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:09 pm to theunknownknight
When I was a lad I ate 4 dozens eggs every morning to help me get large
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:10 pm to theunknownknight
It blows my mind, despite this being a "Movie/TV" board, how many people on here don't understand narratives, archetypes, and stories that tell truths of the human existence. Yet I read threads like that all the time on here.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:52 pm to sacrathetic
Also keep this in mind between the Beast and Gaston: the Beast hopes and tries to earn her love. Gaston just thinks he’s entitled to it and that Belle’s will is irrelevant. Major difference between the two characters. Everything Belle means to Gaston ties directly into him, but not so for the Beast.
Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:43 pm to OMLandshark
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Also keep this in mind between the Beast and Gaston: the Beast hopes and tries to earn her love. Gaston just thinks he’s entitled to it and that Belle’s will is irrelevant. Major difference between the two characters. Everything Belle means to Gaston ties directly into him, but not so for the Beast.
The story of Beauty and the Beast is basically the female equivalent of the Hero's Journey. It's archetypal at it's core, and it's virtually perfect. But OP had a bone to pick, I guess.
This post was edited on 2/17/22 at 12:01 am
Posted on 2/16/22 at 11:56 pm to sacrathetic
Hell, the story is so built into the human collective memory that it could almost be called "Shamhat and Enkidu."
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