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re: Authorities seize record 1.7 million fentanyl pills in Arizona
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:27 pm to NPComb
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:27 pm to NPComb
quote:Thanks. It's pretty obvious what needs to be done but no one has the balls to do it. When Hitler was blitzing Europe did we just say frick it, lets wait till he invades American shores or did we man up and take the fight to the source and cut the head off of the snake?
This should be the Post of the Day.
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Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:27 pm to Joshjrn
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I know those things are super tiny,
Looks like they are fake Roxies or something. I bet they are making fake versions of everything, which can definitely be dangerous for dumb kids wanting to frick around that aren't real habitual users. But for every bust you have to assume a ton more went through and its not just the cartel doing it, there are random people doing this shite all over the country, albeit maybe a smaller scale. It is a problem for sure.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:29 pm to Crow Pie
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At some point all the addicted will have to either detox or die.
Agree.
What I'm saying is the US does not have the ability to handle a strict cold turkey approach to the opioid epidemic. There is no overnight fix like bombing a cartel or going to war with China.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:35 pm to McVick
My wife & I watch Intervention all the time and this thread brought up a question we can't find an answer for ?
Why do the drug cartels make poorly produced & lethal dosed pills ? Wouldn't that reduce their business by both killing customers and making new ones scared ? Also , a cost per pill basis, why would you want to put more product than required to soften your margins?
Why do the drug cartels make poorly produced & lethal dosed pills ? Wouldn't that reduce their business by both killing customers and making new ones scared ? Also , a cost per pill basis, why would you want to put more product than required to soften your margins?
This post was edited on 12/18/21 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:41 pm to The Boat
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Did they hit us with the ol “Enough fentanyl to kill every person in the Phoenix metro”?
"Some 700,000 lives were potentially saved by the historic bust, Oz said. "
If they don't use some hyperbole they just feel empty.
This post was edited on 12/18/21 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:47 pm to Rsande63
I don't imagine drug cartels run their business like a corporation with bean counters. Quality control isn't an issue until profits are an issue.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:48 pm to stout
Think about how many national heroes we could make with those
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:49 pm to BuckyCheese
China is not at war with the USA, it’s at war with all of Western Democracy , apparently they even want a war with the moon. Yet we keep buying their shite. Covid is clearly a bioengineered depopulation super weapon designed by Chinese.
It’s time to test out the “new age” weapons that cause earthquakes and natural disasters and bring down some select damns in China.
It’s time to test out the “new age” weapons that cause earthquakes and natural disasters and bring down some select damns in China.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 12:55 pm to BorrisMart
This is exactly how Jake Ehlinger died. He took what he thought was Xanax but, it ended being cut with fentanyl.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 1:07 pm to BorrisMart
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Looks like they are fake Roxies or something. I bet they are making fake versions of everything, which can definitely be dangerous for dumb kids wanting to frick around that aren't real habitual users. But for every bust you have to assume a ton more went through and its not just the cartel doing it, there are random people doing this shite all over the country, albeit maybe a smaller scale. It is a problem for sure.
I read a really interesting book years ago called I Am the Market. Among many other anecdotes, one of the core tenets was to think about the sheer amount of drugs being used in this country in the span of a year. Then think about the sizes of drug busts you hear about. This one is eyebrow raising big, but most aren't. And this is fentanyl, which is dirt cheap. Then think about how big some shipments must be to meet national, or even regional, demand. He talked about professional mules carrying "substantial" in theory but in the grand scheme of things irrelevant amounts of drugs. If they get through, great. But more importantly, they keep the cops busy and help you find your rats. So that way when you push real volume, your odds of success are significantly better. He told one story of moving miles and miles of spooled "industrial wire" cored with straight cocaine, etc. When one of those shipments get pinched, that's when whole villages in South America get burned to ash, whole family lines are wiped out, etc. But those are the kinds of shipments that have to regularly get through in order for there to be drugs in basically every zip code in the country at all times.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 1:08 pm to Zchlsu
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This is exactly how Jake Ehlinger died. He took what he thought was Xanax but, it ended being cut with fentanyl.
Stories like that are what I have in mind when I advocate for the legalization of all, yes all drugs. It's not because I think doing them is a good fricking idea. But, in the same way that people don't go blind anymore from drinking alcohol, I'm getting really tired of reading stories of people overdosing because they got adulterated shite.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 1:10 pm to dgnx6
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No it isn’t.
Yeah it is
Posted on 12/18/21 at 1:20 pm to supadave3
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Fentanyl.
Why can’t we just have some good quality cocaine like back in the day?
Because good, quality cocaine is very expensive. Just like good, prescription pills are very expensive. People didn't start doing crack and meth because they liked the taste; they did so because they couldn't afford the more expensive habit. Every heroin addict I've ever known started with prescription pills. But you can only do that for so long. At some point, your 20+ pill a day habit at $10 a pill is too much. And when faced with the choice of either no longer using or moving to a less expensive, more potent drug, most people choose the latter.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 1:21 pm to SDVTiger
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Yeah it is
I'm not sure one can argue that a market as heavily regulated and heavily taxed as marijuana is in the United States would constitute a "free market" by any reasonable definition of the term. Legal? Yes. Free market? No.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 1:28 pm to Crow Pie
quote:that’s an extremely rare event if it even happens at all. Unless little johnnie is already on intensive probation for a felony that he has violated several times. With several other convictions. Then on a very very rare case lil johnnie finally gets sentenced to a year and is released in 4 months back on probation
because the government would rather throw lil Johnnie in jail for a year because he had a roach in his ashtray.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 1:41 pm to Crow Pie
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Thanks. It's pretty obvious what needs to be done but no one has the balls to do it. When Hitler was blitzing Europe did we just say frick it, lets wait till he invades American shores or did we man up and take the fight to the source and cut the head off of the snake?
Except it's not a snake; it's a hydra. Which is why instead of fighting it, you starve it. People have been doing drugs since the dawn of human history. They are going to continue doing drugs until the sunset of human history. Set up a reasonable, not insanely overtaxed legal marketplace and watch the cartels starve.
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